Re: Kensington runestone in the Scandinavian press

Philip Deitiker wrote: aJXoe.902428$w62.396460@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,

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Philip Deitiker wrote: 
Who thinks Ohman carved the stone? For some strange reason you
guys seem to think that minnesota was at the south pole. The
fur trade in the region had proceeded for centuries prior to
the Ohman farm, there were oxcart and abandoned fort trails
within site distance of the hill.


As a note, Ft Abercrombie (ND on the Red River) was built in
1858. Any trail there probably used the exsisting Red River Ox
cart trails as a basis, which ran a few miles of the KRS site
These trails began in the 1820s - anytime before that and there
seem to have been no trail or even fur trade that reached into
that area. The Ox Cart trails were used almost exclusively by
Metis travelling between Winnipeg and the Mississippi river
(primarily the Minneapolis/St Paul region).  It is certainly
possible that some Norseman travelled this route, but it seems
highly unlikely (I have kept an eye out for any such report but
have seen none).  The Red River trails should not be considered
some easy highway that anyone could travel at thier leisure -
they were there for a certain specialized trade between two
points, and not in frerquent use.


But the Old Abercrombie trail would have been usable by anyone who
liesure or not, managed to carve a 200 lb stone, and how exactly did
he carry it. So basically some sort of cart is part of the equation.




There is no direct reason to post it here and now,
(apart from the talkabout trails), but some days ago
I have composed a map of the surroundings of the
KRS with shaded relief, which gives (I think) a good
impression of the terrain.
http://tinyurl.com/br5ev
The findspot is in the centre of the map, between Eng Lake
and Solem Lake, on the hillock South-West of the '15'.
(For a broad view, try scale 1:500.000)

In the light of the story on the stone,
it is not the most obvious place.

BTW. I think it is a strange aspect of the story
that they were traveling south, away from their ship.

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