Re: Kensington runestone in the Scandinavian press


"Alaca" <P.Alaca@xxxxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
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> Philip Deitiker wrote:
> aJXoe.902428$w62.396460@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
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> > "m_zalar@xxxxxxxxxxx" <m_zalar@xxxxxxxxxxx> says in
> > news:1118059017.741910.240190@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Philip Deitiker wrote:
> >>> Who thinks Ohman carved the stone? For some strange reason you
> >>> guys seem to think that minnesota was at the south pole. The
> >>> fur trade in the region had proceeded for centuries prior to
> >>> the Ohman farm, there were oxcart and abandoned fort trails
> >>> within site distance of the hill.
> >>
> >> As a note, Ft Abercrombie (ND on the Red River) was built in
> >> 1858. Any trail there probably used the exsisting Red River Ox
> >> cart trails as a basis, which ran a few miles of the KRS site
> >> These trails began in the 1820s - anytime before that and there
> >> seem to have been no trail or even fur trade that reached into
> >> that area. The Ox Cart trails were used almost exclusively by
> >> Metis travelling between Winnipeg and the Mississippi river
> >> (primarily the Minneapolis/St Paul region). It is certainly
> >> possible that some Norseman travelled this route, but it seems
> >> highly unlikely (I have kept an eye out for any such report but
> >> have seen none). The Red River trails should not be considered
> >> some easy highway that anyone could travel at thier leisure -
> >> they were there for a certain specialized trade between two
> >> points, and not in frerquent use.
> >
> > But the Old Abercrombie trail would have been usable by anyone who
> > liesure or not, managed to carve a 200 lb stone, and how exactly did
> > he carry it. So basically some sort of cart is part of the equation.
>
>
>
> There is no direct reason to post it here and now,
> (apart from the talkabout trails), but some days ago
> I have composed a map of the surroundings of the
> KRS with shaded relief, which gives (I think) a good
> impression of the terrain.
> http://tinyurl.com/br5ev
> The findspot is in the centre of the map, between Eng Lake
> and Solem Lake, on the hillock South-West of the '15'.
> (For a broad view, try scale 1:500.000)
>
> In the light of the story on the stone,
> it is not the most obvious place.
>
> BTW. I think it is a strange aspect of the story
> that they were traveling south, away from their ship.

That one is one of the easy ones to answer. At that time there were more
than one group of Scandinavians living in mid of US closer to the place
where Mississippi river is. Ivar Bardson was as his collegue they left
behind in Iceland been given the task/mission to collect the tithes from ALL
dioceses under Gardar. There were three at that time and one of them were in
NA according to several documents forgotten by scholars since 1780's when
they last were mentioned and analysed...

Inger E
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