Re: Kensington runestone in the Scandinavian press


"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:25:05 +0200, Erik Hammerstad
> <egeha.is.all.you.need@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>Eric Stevens wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:27:07 +0200, Erik Hammerstad
>>> <egeha.is.all.you.need@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Eric Stevens wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 23:12:32 +0200, Erik Hammerstad
>>>>><egeha.is.all.you.need@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>m_zalar@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Let me suggest a scenario. The group believes they are in Asia,
>>>>>>>somewhere near Cathay (as is suggested in the Mercator/Dee letter).
>>>>>>>They have followed the Red River inland to the first set of
>>>>>>>waterfalls,
>>>>>>>near what is now Fergus Falls, MN, camping on the south side of the
>>>>>>>River where the 10 men were attacked and the boats stolen or
>>>>>>>destroyed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And still no explanantion for how they brought boats (did a knorr
>>>>>>carry more than one?) from the Hudson Bay to Lake Winnipeg. A
>>>>>>short description of the presumed route (in reverse):
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>They could easily have built their own boats. There are precedents for
>>>>>this.
>>>>
>>>>Not easily and not shortly. And where and when sre the precedents?
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know about the norse but there are a number of examples around
>>> my part of the world ranging from sealers building small ships in case
>>> their mother ship came back to pick them up, ship wrecked dailors
>>> building both small craft and ships of 50'. An old man I knew, when he
>>> was young at the end of the 19th century, built a small boat every
>>> two weeks with his brother. These were 12' to 20' long and were used
>>> for fishing and general transport around the sounds on the South
>>> Island of New Zealand.
>>>
>>> The KRS demonstrates that the carver had a competent set of chisels
>>> (and please, someone, don't trot out that old canard about them being
>>> standard 'inch' sizes. They are not) and presumably the rest of the
>>> ship's carpentering tools. A ship's carpenter could certainly build a
>>> boat if he had to.
>>>
>>
>>Building a recue boat from wreckage to sail to safety is something
>>quite different to building a boat or boats from fresh materials
>>on the shore to trek 1000 miles inland up a river with strong
>>currents, falls and rapids.
>
> The boats I have in mind were all built from locally available timber.
> The only difference from the situation of 14th century norse may be in
> the more recent builders having pit saws as well as adzes and side
> axes.
>>
>>So you have not provided any precedents, sorry.
>
> But I was not relying on boats built from wreckage. I was referring to
> people who cut down trees, reduced them to planks and timbers and
> built a boat from them.

Amazing!

Why build a boat? Well, they were in hostile territory, far from their
"ship(s)" in the "inland sea", and needed to escape. So naturally, they
engage in a round of felling trees, reducing the trees to planks and
timbers, and building a boat (just one?; would it have been large enough to
transport all of them while being small enough to navigate the available
water system?)

This certainly seems to be an illogical alternative to simply hauling their
tushies out the vicinity at a the highest possible rate of speed. Of
course, when speculating in defense of a good "alternative history" story,
you never did see a need to rely upon logic, did you Eric?


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> Eric Stevens
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