Re: Linchpin University founded by Inger herself?

On 11 Jun 2005 12:01:10 -0700, "Franz Gnaedinger" <frgn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>Ole Hagen, for the very very last time: I do not understand what you
>are telling in your messages and on your website. If others understand
>you, well, get in contact with them and leave me out.
>
>I did not ask you for the Minoan New Year's Day, which, I believe,
>was on midsummer (June 21), I ask you how to use the Phaistos Disk
>as a calendar. You consider every sign one day, there are 241 signs
>on the Phaistos Disk (not 242 or 243 or 244 signs, as you suggest,
>simply and exactly 241 signs). When the year has 241 days, New Year
>will leap, there won't be any New Year's Day in our sense. But then,
>you can consider each and every early document a calendar. A Linear
>A tablet has, say 89 signs: well it is a calendar of 89 days. Another
>document has 268 signs: well, it is a calendar of 268 days. And so on.
>That leads nowhere. Explain how to use the Phaistos Disk as a calendar,
>how to really use it, or else nobody will care about your work and
>claims.
>
>That was my last reply to you, for you are not willing or not able to
>explain the numerical model of your calendar. Wishing you good luck
>nevertheless
>
>Franz Gnaedinger www.seshat.ch

Dear Frans Gnaedinger. Sometimes it is only possible to comprehend a
new hypothesis, if you are willing to take a struggle yourself, in
this case by counter-checking if my basical enumerations are correct.
No-one else can do this task for you.
My report is maybe untraditional in its form. It is supported, if not
grounded , on graphics; I see, like your own essays.
Historians are people, who studies various documents, treaties,
graffitti etc with different ancienity 50 - 5000 years and older, on a
daily basis. They are accustomed to interpret this old communication
forms so different in methods an order than in anno 2001.
Are you unable to read a pirce of documentation manufactured for the
reason to be understood by the most, made by a person from your own
era, or is it just that you are stubborn about it?
I agree, let us have a hault in this controversy, I am sure that you
only mean to give me some good advises.

Hagen

P.S. When my discovery is official commented on and gratulated, I shal
find peace and the necessary co-operation to write a work about the
Phaistos disc

>
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>
>
>> Ole Hagen: I am really sorry for not understanding anything what you
>> say, neither in your messages, nor on your website, and I gave up
>> trying. If you wish to be taken seriously, you have to make yourself
>> understandable.
>>
>> As for calendars, I can only lay out some general principles.
>>
>> A calendar requires a simple or a more complex numerical model
>> that goes along with heavenly cycles (day, lunation, solar year).
>> The model must be simple enough to handle it, and it must be
>> clever enough to provide a good first approximation of the
>> heavenly cycles in question, then it must allow a possibility
>> of correction, for no numerical model can really render the
>> heavenly cycles.
>>
>> If you understand the Phaistos Disk as a calendar, you have to
>> tell us what model you found in it, or project into it. Without
>> such a model, there is no calendar.
>>
>> Many people "deciphered" the Phaistos Disk as a calendar.
>> For example the Massey Twins. They wrote periodical messages
>> by the title "Why did the Massey Twins succeed?" But did they
>> succeed at all? They just claimed to have succeeded. I asked
>> them to explain their calendar. They never did. I ask you to
>> explain your calendar. You tell me you explained it on your
>> website. I undertook three serious attempts at understanding
>> your website, but I failed completely. I understand nothing
>> at all. And consider that I am not really the most stupid of
>> all posters around. If I fail others will fail too.
>>
>> As for the Maya: they had a secret calendar, namely the tzolkin
>> cycle of 13 times 20 yielding 260 days, beginning on a fictive
>> day some nine million (!) years back in time, and a solar year
>> of 18 times 20 days, yielding 360 days, plus 5 unfortunate
>> days. It is said that these two calendars had nothing in common
>> with each other. I found something else (you find my message
>> via a Google query in the groups for: tzolkin www.seshat.ch)
>>
>> If you do a Google query in the web for: tzolkin, or for "tzolkin
>> cycle" you will find many pages, among them one that allows
>> to transform any date you like into a Maya sacred calendar
>> date, immediately. Try out.
>>
>> Now the rest is up to you. Either you make yourself understandable,
>> or nobody will understand you.
>>
>> Regards Franz Gnaedinger www.seshat.ch
>

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