Re: Kensington runestone in the Scandinavian press


"Tom McDonald" <tmcdonald2672@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
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> cgjt wrote:
> > "Tom McDonald" <tmcdonald2672@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
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> >>In addition, harvesting the bark is not something that can be
> >>done easily (as would be necessary, one might imagine, for
> >>beginners such as the Norse)
> >
> >
> > Beginners ?? I dont understand. A pack of fat bishops or
> > spoiled tax collectors , OK, but what prevent presence
> > of a carpenter that know how to build a small boat
> > or experienced sailors that know how to swing an axe?
> > Bark was used in Scandinavia on many places for
> > various pupouses during a wide time span.
> >
>
> Was bark commonly used for canoes or other small boats?

I would not say that it was common, but there are a few findings.
One is found in Horred, Västergötland but I have no usefull
information.Sorry. I live in Östergötland and don´t mind
go to Linköping for looking at a house with a cross,
but going Göteborg for finding out about a boat that may
not even be of relevance is a bit to much for me.
My -79 G20 Beauville is to thirsty :-[

>
> If not, then these guys might or might not have been neophytes
> in removing bark; but they would certainly have been beginners at
> bark canoe building. It is a very skilled craft filled with
> not-immediately-obvious pitfalls and specialized techniques.
>

I can not se a band of Nordic explorers/tax collectors
building bark canoes. If they built something for use
on water it would most likely be made of wood.

> >
> >>at just any time of year. In the
> >>cold weather, it breaks easily; in summer, it holds very tightly
> >>to the wood and tends to tear when trying to work the wooden spud
> >>under it to 'skin' it. Only in the spring, when the sap is
> >>running, is it relatively easy to remove the bark.
> >>
> >>Here is a link to studies of northern hemisphere climate studies
> >>for the last 1000 years, including a graph showing temperatures
> >>adduced by various studies. Older studies are in blue; newer
> >>studies are in red. Studies in the last ca. century and a half
> >>are in black:
> >>
> >>http://tinyurl.com/cgzvn
> >>
> >>From the graph, it appears that the 1906 study of northern
> >>limits of forest trees is likely to show trees somewhat north of
> >>their 14th century limits. IOW, using the 1906 map to estimate
> >>the kinds of trees available to notional Norse small boat makers
> >>is being very, very generous.
> >>
> >
> >
> > There is that possibility that they had small boats onboard a
> > a few seagoing vessles. Or that they got some canoes from
> > friendly natives.
>
> Either seems possible. What do you make of Inger's assertion
> that remains of a klinker-built of pre-Columbian vintage was
> found in Canada?


If there is two clinker built boats in a museum I trust that
the museum knows what it is they have. There is nothing
that will make me thrust Inger E Johansson.


>Do you have the references that she is not giving?

No. Don't you guys on the other side have access to
information.

>
> --
> Tom McDonald
> http://ahwhatdoiknow.blogspot.com/


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