Re: Kensington runestone in the Scandinavian press




"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
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> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 00:58:05 +0200, "Alaca" <P.Alaca@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> >IEJ wrote: Rv2re.27158$d5.178886@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
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> >> "Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
> >> news:2j9pa1hrh6j07m3eomll2fv4rgjb21sl18@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>> On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:34:03 +0200, "Alaca" <P.Alaca@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Tom McDonald wrote: 0jNqe.1216$eL5.196@xxxxxxxx,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The idea of expedient small river craft makes sense to me.
> >>>>> However, if we are talking about area around the Nelson and Hayes
> >>>>> Rivers, I wonder what would be available to make them. From the
> >>>>> story on the stone, they did not dismantle their ship. A look at
> >>>>> this map shows the northern limit of forest trees in the area in
> >>>>> 1906, a period warmer than the mid-1300's:
> >>>>> [...]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> There is a lot to find on beechbark canoes.
> >>>> This website by Judy Kavanagh is very instructive.
> >>>> http://jumaka.com/birchbarkcanoe/
> >>>>
> >>>> Required tools
> >>>> Gathering and preparing materials
> >>>> Preparing a building platform and canoe form
> >>>> Shaping the sides of the canoe
> >>>> Inwales and outwales
> >>>> Bow and stern
> >>>> Adding sheathing and ribs
> >>>> Gumming
> >>>> Paddling
> >>>>
> >>>> A couple of weeks ago I saw one build in Ray Mear's
> >>>> Bushcraft program. An amazing technique.
> >>>
> >>> While I find it hard to accept, there was an article on canoe
> >>> building in a Wooden Boat magazine some years ago in which the
> >>> author stated that norse (I think he said the norse) brought the art
> >>> of building birch bark canoes with them and taught it to the
> >>> natives. A problem with this kind of claim is that birchbark canoes
> >>> are unlikelt of have lasted for several centuries and no one can
> >>> have direct knowledge of pre-norse canoe building techniques.
> >>
> >> One other problem..... it's not Norse technique but the technique
> >> brought with the Finns to Finland around 7th century from the eastern
> >> parts of Lake Ladoga......
> >
> >Wrong
> >"" Overlapping seams were recorded for hull remains
> > in the north as early as the fourth century BC
> > (the Hjortspring boat), where two planks on each
> > side overlapped and were fastened to a broad
> > central plank.
> > The Nydam oak boat, dated to AD 350-400, was a
> > classic example of what was to follow in the forms
> > of all types of Viking craft. It had five overlapping
> > strakes on each side of a thick, T-shaped central
> > plank. ""
>
> But that's not the technique used for birch-bark canoes.

And it's the birch-bark technique that was used along Lake Ladoga...

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