Re: Columbus Templar cross on his sails!!??

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:12:04 GMT, in sci.archaeology, IEJ wrote:

>"the sails of Columbus' ships were emblazoned with the Templar cross."
>
>"The Portuguese Templars simply changed their name - like a modern business
>might change its name in order to avoid previous debts. They became the
>Knight of Christ, who later became famous for their explorations in Africa
>and the West Indies. The famous King Henry the Navigator was a known Grand
>Master of the Order, and explorers like Vasco da Gama were members.
>Christopher Columbus' father-in-law was a Grand Master, and Columbus sailed
>across the Atlantic with the familiar Templar cross emblazoned on his sails.
>The Order of Christ survived until 1830's"
>http://www.veling.nl/anne/templars/lives.html

I responded to something about this in another thread. Not just a name
change and it may be the case that none of the Templars were allowed in
the new order. And if you read to the bottom of the url I give below, it
shows that your source is also wrong about what happened to the Order of
Christ.

http://www.templarhistory.com/portugal.html

"Later that year a joint policy was issued between Portugal and
neighboring Castile, which found the Knights Templar innocent of all
crimes on Iberian lands. So it seemed that the Templars would be allowed
to continue in the Iberian territories, unhindered by the long arm of the
Holy See. However, this was not the case, as another Papal bull was issued
in 1312, which hit a little closer to the coffers of the King of Portugal.
Clement's bull, "Ad Providam", which we looked at in chapter one,
bequeathed all Templar holdings to the rival order of St. John. It is at
this point in history, that King Dinis turned from protector of the
Templar knights, to protector of his own political interests. Dinis argued
with the Pope that the lands occupied by the Templars did not truly belong
to the order, but rather they were only granted perpetual use of the
properties. Ownership of the forts, castles and chapels, he asserted,
properly belonged to the Portuguese crown and that crown belonged to King
Dinis himself. It was for this reason and perhaps no other that Dinis
formed his own religious and military order which he named "The Order of
Christ."

Several years after the conversion, on March 14th, 1319, Pope John XXII
issued the papal bull, "Ad ea exquibis", which confirmed the new order of
knighthood. This Pope became the order's patron and interestingly enough
gave it a Cistercian rule, which had also been granted to the Templars two
centuries before. Soon after the papal sanction, the order expanded its
activities into Spain, Italy, Germany and its former home France. All
Templar holdings including the city of Tomar were transferred to the Order
of Christ, which chose the Church of Santa Maria do Castelo as its first
headquarters under the leadership of its first Grand Master, Gil Martins.
Martins had already been the master of the Order of Avis and so was always
a likely candidate to head Dinis' new order. "
>
>". The great Portuguese explorer Vasco da Gama journeyed with the Templar
>cross insignia on his sails, as did Christopher Columbus. "
>http://www.tylwythteg.com/templar.html
>
>"Christopher Columbus' navigators were members of the extant Portuguese
>Templar Order, and the Templar cross was featured prominently on the sails
>of his ships in 1492."
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar
>
>Your thoughts appreciated.
>
>Inger E
>
>
>

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