Re: Kensington runestone Vegetation)in the Scandinavian press


"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:26:53 +0800, "hyperoglyphe"
> <hyperoglyphe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>"Seppo Renfors" <Renfors@xxxxxxxxxx> forgot his smileys and wrote
>>in news:42BD0B5E.C3C22E70@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>> Doug Weller wrote:
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>>>> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:43:39 +1200, in sci.archaeology, Eric Stevens
>>>> wrote:
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>>> [..]
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>>>> Thanks Eric. So far as I know this is pretty accurate. Inger, however,
>>>> wants to go far beyond this to suggest that the Knights Templar never
>>>> ceased to exist.
>>>
>>> Actually Inger is correct, and Douggie is WRONG - his claim would mean
>>> they (Templars) DO NOT EXIST NOW - but they do. Therefor they "never
>>> ceased to exist" is true! Douggie has problems, he cannot use the
>>> language properly to suggest there was a HIATUS - a period, during
>>> which they did not exist, which is a different thing again.
>>>
>>> Here is the proof they exist:
>>>
>>> http://www.knightstemplar.org/
>>
>>There was no hiatus: From http://www.knightstemplar.org/faq.html#origin:
>>
>>"THERE IS NO PROOF OF DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN THE ANCIENT ORDER AND THE
>>MODERN ORDER KNOWN TO DAY AS THE KNIGHTS TEMPLAR."
>
> "King Dinis didn't believe the accusations made against the
> Templars, and when the Pope dissolved the Templars, he decided
> to form a new order, to which the Templar holdings would be
> given.
>
> It is unclear whether many Templars continued in the new order.
> Some writers seem to think that the Templars just continued under
> a new name, whereas others think that the Order of Christ was a
> new formation."
>
> Certainly the same assets. Probably some of the same people. Sounds
> like the kind of trick construction companies get up to.
>

The post I responded to suggested the 'Knights Templar' were an organisation
in hiatus. http://www.knightstemplar.org/. The quoted site proves this to be
incorrect. also of note:
"They organize fund-raising activities such as breakfasts, dinners, dances,
and flea markets. They support Masonic-related youth groups and they raise
millions of dollars for medical research and educational assistance"

Certainly unlike the 'Order of the Knights of Christ' which at least
continued carving up a few Saracens during 'flea markets'.

However I find the analogy with a reborn construction business a poor one.
Even having some of the same assets and possibly people is insufficient.
Control in the reborn business is essentially the same as the succeeded one,
the shareholders and or board common beneficiaries. If not it is simply a
new business.

The analogy clashes with the Templars in that the company constitution
changed (the Papal Bull), the Board literally torched, a question mark on
whether any personnel were indeed retained and control, in the case of the
Portuguese
order, progressively shifted to the Portuguese Monarch.
http://www.chivalricorders.org/vatican/christ.htm

Sounds much more akin to a corporate raid and asset strip, a-la Gordon
Gecko.

Dave





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