Re: Inger's spam email claims
- From: Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:50:30 +1300
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:19:24 GMT, "JerryT" <not@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
>"Doug Weller" <dweller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
>news:4gt9m1d4a55mhbvakuvh5bmam428ndp8s1@xxxxxxxxxx
>> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:30:47 GMT, in sci.archaeology, JerryT wrote:
>> [SNIP]
>> >
>> >I may add that Telia abuse department do not
>> >process complaints about customers outside
>> >their own network.
>>
>> That's interesting as it isn't the impression we get from Inger.
>
>Here is part of what telia abuse has told me once. The query
>was if (as Inger E claimed) Telia had any information
>regarding my name or or email-adress stored.
>(xxxxxx is for protecting my email-adress)
>
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>To: JerryT <jerryt@xxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: Ang. anmälan till Telias abusegrupp
>From: abuse@xxxxxxxxx
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>Hej igen!
>
>Vad jag kan se är du kund hos Comhem, vilket innebär att vi inte har
>någonting på dig över huvud taget. Om någon skulle vilja anmäla något
>gällande dig, måste det skickas till abusegruppen på Comhem för att det ska
>bli ett ärenden av det till att börja med. Om ett klagomål gällande dig
>skulle skickas till _Telias_ abusegrupp hamnar det via automatisk sortering
>i det stora runda arkivet (papperskorgen).
>
>ALLA internetoperatörer tar bara emot klagomål gällande _sina_ kunders
>förehavanden på nätet. Ingen operatör kan spåra någon annan operatörs
>kunder. En uppslagning av en IP-adress ger bara information om hos vem
>vederbörande är kund, inget annat. Såvida det inte handlar om ett stort
>företag, en kommun eller liknande som köper en fast access mot Internet av
>en operatör, då går det vid uppslagningen av IP-adressen att se vad
>företaget/kommunen heter.
>
>Om du vill veta om det finns ärenden gällande dig, bör du vända dig till
>abusegruppen på Comhem.
>Hoppas att detta räcker som information kring din frågeställning.
>
>
>Med vänlig hälsning
>Andrea
>Telia Abuseteam
>*******************************
>
>In short:
>............
>Scince I'm not a Telia customer any complaints
>about me will end up in the trash can.
>
>All ISP:s will only consider complaints about their own customers.
>No ISP will be able to track the customers of an other ISP.
>A query of IP-adress will only reveal the ISP of a customer
>unless it's a company or someone having a static IP, then
>it is possible to get a name.
>..........
>
>So whatever Inger E say, you are absolutely right when
>you say that it is not easy to track an individual computer.
>But it can be done, and has been done several times but
>it need cooperation between suppliers and network owners.
>And in many countries a court order.
>
>And here is an url for all thee that has yelled mental disorder,
>lack of pills, scizophrenia and similar, and when you have read it
>consider your word and ask yourself if it is her choise and if you
>would have choosen it for your children.
>
> http://shorl.com/hytikatramoji
>
My wife's family is riddled with all kinds of manifestations of
dyslexia and I found the article of the URL very interesting. However,
I saw nothing which 'yelled mental disorder, lack of pills,
scizophrenia and similar' and such would be totally at variance with
my observations.
Eric Stevens
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