Re: Flint

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 11:15:51 GMT, Seppo Renfors <Renfors@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

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>Eric Stevens wrote:
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>> On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:05:40 GMT, Seppo Renfors <Renfors@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
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>> >IE_Johansson wrote:
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>> >> In message:
>> >> news:h9-dndsG1qngQB7enZ2dnUVZ8tydnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> to soc.history Ancient "Agamemnon" under thread: "Flints give Cyprus oldest
>> >> seafaring link in Med" presented new information from an article of Michele
>> >> Kambas.
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>> >> "Fragments of stone implements believed to be up to 12,000 years old have
>> >> been found at two sites of Cyprus, suggesting roving mariners used the areas
>> >> as temporary camp sites after forays from what is today Syria and Turkey.
>> >>
>> >> The flints are unlike anything found in the geological make-up of Cyprus,
>> >> and more than 1,000 years older than the timing of the first permanent
>> >> settlers to the island."
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>> >> It would of course be interesting to learn about your reaction on the
>> >> findings, but I have one question which crossed my mind: In which areas
>> >> around the Mediteranian does flint exist?
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>> >Inger, at around that time and earlier, the Mediterranean was at a
>> >much, much lower level. Remember it was below the Gibraltar sill
>> >height.
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>> The Gibraltar sill is presently 300 metres deep. See
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straits_of_Gibraltar
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>I don't accept wikipedia as an authority on much anything.

See http://www.seacore.co.uk/news.php?news_id=142 This site also gives
300m as the depth. http://www.agu.org/sci_soc/eosrjohnson.html gives
the depth as 284m.
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>> Sealevels have risen approximately 100m since the ice age. See
>> http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwarming.nsf/content/ClimateTrendsSeaLevel.html

It all depends upon from when you start counting.
>Generally it is accepted the rise was from about -125 meters - only it
>is more than that in places, less in others - for reasons which have
>been detailed a number of times before.

http://freespace.virgin.net/mark.davidson3/sea_level_rise/past.htm
also supports the slightly higher figure of 125m over the last 20k
years.
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>> I think you are getting this confused with the event of 5-6m years
>> ago.
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>I may have recalled the sill height wrong for Gibraltar and replaced
>it with that of the Dardanelles - the remainder still holds true.

Even though the Mediterranean may have been internally divided, the
western portion has been in contact with the Atlantic for millions of
years.
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>> >The Mediterranean was divided into 3 smaller puddles at around
>> >that time. If Cyprus was connected via a land bridge to Turkey or
>> >Syria I'm not sure, certainly the distance to both would have at least
>> >been much shorter.
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>> >http://www.ciesm.org/online/monographs/Santorini04.pdf
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>> >See page 18.
>> >This has much other interesting reading as well.
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>Did you even bother to look at the reference I gave? You know, the
>more relevant part of what I posted?

I read that. Its a very interesting series. I was just picking you up
on the Gibraltar sill height aspect of your article.



Eric Stevens

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  • Re: Flint
    ... >>> been found at two sites of Cyprus, suggesting roving mariners used the areas ... >>> as temporary camp sites after forays from what is today Syria and Turkey. ... > The Gibraltar sill is presently 300 metres deep. ... >>The Mediterranean was divided into 3 smaller puddles at around ...
    (sci.archaeology)
  • Re: Flint
    ... >> The flints are unlike anything found in the geological make-up of Cyprus, ... The Gibraltar sill is presently 300 metres deep. ... >The Mediterranean was divided into 3 smaller puddles at around ...
    (sci.archaeology)