Re: Origin of the Etruscan people?
- From: prd <X_header@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 04:33:24 GMT
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news:kvp8r1hocjjrpsi5n92k7f90u97suu9505@xxxxxxx by Hayabusa
<peregrine@xxxxxxxxxxx> . . . :
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 00:36:05 GMT, prd <X_header@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>>>>> Sardinia was settled 7000 BCE (by roughly 1000 individuals).
>>>>
>>>>Probably much longer ago than that.
>>>>Molecular clocking papers from poor calibration, thing on the
>>>>order of 10 to 14 kya.
>>>
>>> Look, you cant't just ignore the archaeological evidence.
>>> There aren't any human traces older than 7000 BCE, it's as
>>> simple as that.
>>
>>See other post.
>
> I did.
>
>> The representation of human occupation in the
>>archaeological record outside of western europe is a rather low
>>frequency event, if I have evidence for a constriction then it
>>is probably that at some point in time the population, for
>>whatever reason, was small enough to go undetected. I don't
>>ignore the archaeological record, but I can statistically
>>condition what is known with other observations.
>
> It is not just evidence of human presence. After all, evidence
> of human absence is negative evidence, and that, in principle,
> could be anything. But in the case of the Mediterranean there is
> a bunch of evidence that leads to the conclusion that
> long-distance maritime activity was absent before 7000 BCE
> (note: not 7000 bp).
When someone gets so fixed in their line of thinking that they
cannot see evidence to the contrary, I find it a general waste of
time to try to convince them otherwise.
I should point out that maritime technologies are apparent from the
exoafrican period (from 65 to 140 kya) from the onset of the eastern
austronesian period (55 to 90 kya), from the paleolithic Japanese and
and Paleolithic Ryukyuan (28 to 45 kya). There is no obvious reason
why a person in the paleolithic where sea levels were 300 feet below
present could present a short journey of 60 miles is trivial compared
to distances traveled before that period of time. Maritime technology
was not invented in asia, Axes and Adze have been found in central
africa close to the PMRCA of humans suggesting that the earliest
humans could make dugouts. The conclusion that prior to 7000 bce
humans could not have traveled in the mediterranean and an untenable
premise.
I have no need to argue with concretized thinkers, particularly
those who apparently cannot find and present the references to back
up their beleifs.
.
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