Re: Origin of the Etruscan people?



On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 04:33:24 GMT, prd <X_header@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


>> It is not just evidence of human presence. After all, evidence
>> of human absence is negative evidence, and that, in principle,
>> could be anything. But in the case of the Mediterranean there is
>> a bunch of evidence that leads to the conclusion that
>> long-distance maritime activity was absent before 7000 BCE
>> (note: not 7000 bp).

>When someone gets so fixed in their line of thinking that they
>cannot see evidence to the contrary, I find it a general waste of
>time to try to convince them otherwise.

Why do you resort to polemics? I am not fixed, I ask questions; and
whereas the oldest found human traces on an island may not be the
earliest, the sudden vanishing of several species is a clear sign that
something profound changed.

> I should point out that maritime technologies are apparent from the
>exoafrican period (from 65 to 140 kya) from the onset of the eastern
>austronesian period (55 to 90 kya), from the paleolithic Japanese and
>and Paleolithic Ryukyuan (28 to 45 kya). There is no obvious reason
>why a person in the paleolithic where sea levels were 300 feet below
>present could present a short journey of 60 miles is trivial compared
>to distances traveled before that period of time. Maritime technology
>was not invented in asia, Axes and Adze have been found in central
>africa close to the PMRCA of humans suggesting that the earliest
>humans could make dugouts. The conclusion that prior to 7000 bce
>humans could not have traveled in the mediterranean and an untenable
>premise.
> I have no need to argue with concretized thinkers, particularly
>those who apparently cannot find and present the references to back
>up their beleifs.

I take that as an indication that you are running out of arguments. In
fact, you should not. You are an expert at interpreting your genetic
data, and that's fine; but if you ignore solid evidence that somehow
has to jive with your interpretations you do what you accuse others of
doing.

With regard to the literature, you can be helped:
Cavalli-Sforza L Menozzi P Piazza A (1994) The history and geography
of human genes. Princeton University Press, 541pp.

fkoe

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