Re: KRS book: Geology


"Peter Alaca" <P.Alaca@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Steve Marcus wrote:
>> "Peter Alaca" wrote
>>> Eric Stevens wrote:
>>>> "Peter Alaca" wrote:
>>>>> Eric Stevens wrote
>
>>>>>> It should by now be clear that I can't understand the reasons for
>>>>>> your insistence that Ojakangas should have shown more data points
>>>>>> on his triangle diagram than he did. I'm quite happy to accept
>>>>>> that he showed the coordinates for the composition of the KRS and
>>>>>> those North American Greywackes of a composition closest to that
>>>>>> of the KRS.
>>>>>> I see no point in showing the composition of all those very many
>>>>>> materials of a more widely different composition.
>
>>>>> Then you have a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Last try.
>>>>> Let's go back, up this sub-thread, to your post
>>>>> dd Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:29:02 +1300,
>>>>> which includes Michael Zalar's original post and
>>>>> Daryl Krupa's reaction.
>>>>> Start with rereading Daryl's comment, and then
>>>>> your own.
>>>>>
>>>>> My problem is the assumption in your comment
>>>>> "Ojakangas plotted six different types of greywacke
>>>>> on his particular triangle diagram and almost certainly
>>>>> *examined many more specimens he did not consider*
>>>>> *worth plotting*."
>>>>>
>>>>> To put it boldly: It is not for him to decide what
>>>>> is worth presenting or not.
>>>>> If he examined all types of grauwacke from
>>>>> every possible location of origin (and not only from
>>>>> the Animikie basin), then it is his duty as a scientist
>>>>> to present _all_ his results, and not only those that
>>>>> point in a certain direction.
>
>>>> You are asking that the decision as to the best match of the
>>>> KRS to the local greywacke be done not by Ojakangas but
>>>> by his readers.
>
>>> Did you stop reading here or have you
>>> difficulties understanding what I write?
>
>> Probably both.
>
>>>> By the same argument, if you were told to find in a crowded railway
>>>> station the person whose description best matches 1.93m tall, 124kg
>>>> weight and with short red hair you would list everybody, including
>>>> the 1.1m dwarf with a red nose and long flowing black hair.
>
>>> No, we are looking for a train where all
>>> (or most) passengers look like that, and
>>> we must be sure that there is not more
>>> than one train meeting that condition.
>
>>>>> He can conclude that the krs-grauwacke probably
>>>>> originated in the Animikie basin, but it must always
>>>>> be possible for others to form an independent opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bear in mind that I do not say that Ojakangas withheld
>>>>> information, only that you say he "almost certainly" did.
>>>>> If I trust you, I must distrust him.
>
>>> I fail to see any progress, so I stop the discussion
>>> from this side.
>
>> Gee, Peter, you beat him to the punch. Normally, when he
>> can't employ sufficient squink to out argue someone,
>> Stevens declares defeat by "putting that someone on ignore."
>
> I suppose that has something to to with a difference
> in discussion style between you and me.
> And I don't have the power of my own language and
> (therefore?) the stamina to create a 100 feet thread,
> as is quite ususal between you and Eric.

Oh, I believe that you did the right thing. Attempting to discuss something
intelligently with Stevens is a difficult undertaking. I wish that I had
your patience, and could learn to let discussions with Stevens go when he
goes into his war dance. I guess that I just can't tolerate his program.
>
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Steve
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