Re: KRS book: Geology

On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 22:15:52 +0100, "Peter Alaca" <P.Alaca@xxxxxx>
wrote:

>Eric Stevens wrote: 99mlr1pt0c3rg8c3412t66cp7kge52ih93@xxxxxxx,
>> "Peter Alaca" wrote:
>>> Eric Stevens wrote
>
>>>> It should by now be clear that I can't understand the reasons for
>>>> your insistence that Ojakangas should have shown more data points
>>>> on his triangle diagram than he did. I'm quite happy to accept that
>>>> he showed the coordinates for the composition of the KRS and those
>>>> North American Greywackes of a composition closest to that of the
>>>> KRS.
>>>> I see no point in showing the composition of all those very many
>>>> materials of a more widely different composition.
>
>>> Then you have a problem.
>>>
>>> Last try.
>>> Let's go back, up this sub-thread, to your post
>>> dd Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:29:02 +1300,
>>> which includes Michael Zalar's original post and
>>> Daryl Krupa's reaction.
>>> Start with rereading Daryl's comment, and then
>>> your own.
>>>
>>> My problem is the assumption in your comment
>>> "Ojakangas plotted six different types of greywacke
>>> on his particular triangle diagram and almost certainly
>>> *examined many more specimens he did not consider*
>>> *worth plotting*."
>>>
>>> To put it boldly: It is not for him to decide what
>>> is worth presenting or not.
>>> If he examined all types of grauwacke from
>>> every possible location of origin (and not only from
>>> the Animikie basin), then it is his duty as a scientist
>>> to present _all_ his results, and not only those that
>>> point in a certain direction.
>
>> You are asking that the decision as to the best match of the KRS to
>> the local greywacke be done not by Ojakangas but by his readers.
>
>Did you stop reading here or have you
>difficulties understanding what I write?
>
>> By the same argument, if you were told to find in a crowded railway
>> station the person whose description best matches 1.93m tall, 124kg
>> weight and with short red hair you would list everybody, including the
>> 1.1m dwarf with a red nose and long flowing black hair.
>
>No, we are looking for a train where all
>(or most) passengers look like that, and
>we must be sure that there is not more
>than one train meeting that condition.

Ojakangas has listed the trains whose passengers most closely meet the
condition.
>
>>> He can conclude that the krs-grauwacke probably
>>> originated in the Animikie basin, but it must always
>>> be possible for others to form an independent opinion.
>>>
>>> Bear in mind that I do not say that Ojakangas withheld
>>> information, only that you say he "almost certainly" did.
>>> If I trust you, I must distrust him.
>
>I fail to see any progress, so I stop the discussion
>from this side.

Excellent idea. :-)



Eric Stevens

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  • Re: KRS book: Geology
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