weapons and Megafauna
- From: "Uwe Müller" <uwemueller@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:45:57 +0100
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> > In sci.archaeology message news:dpo9or$2pn$1@xxxxxxxxx by "Uwe
> > Müller" <uwemueller@xxxxxxxxxx> . . . :
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> The laquer technology used in the incipient and early Jomon was
> obviously a major technological advance, and a reason why one does
> not see more Clovis - Soluterean like tools in the region. Since
> Shikoku is largely hilly terrain with interdisperse valleys
> and faltlands compeition for valleys between megafauna and humans,
> particularly if humans were camped occasionally along the narrow
> valleys in which river and cliff block access could be a reason why
> these weapons might have been the ceremonial yayoi equivilent, both
> as hunting weapons and as defensive weapons when a local herd of
> mammoth suddenly need to cross and area where your hunting or
> seasonal camp existed.
Mammoth were animals of the cold steppe, groups of them might have been
passing through this terrain, but it was nowhere near central to their style
of living.
> The persistent incipient Jomon artifacts are found in caves,
> however it was established that this paleolithic/mesolithic culture,
> particularly in the north of Japan migrated with the herds, and rock
> cavitations were not available everywhere, it is likely that they had
> animal skin houses which they used as they followed prey, ergo they
> and families may have been in harms way as these giant animals
> migrated around along their migratory paths.
Caves are good at protecting sites, so their is a good chance of finding
sites in caves. Most of the camps would have been in the open, especially
the hunters camps. A number of these have been excavated.
> snip >
> I would make this point as it appears to me. Prior to 18,000 years
> ago in the east, and 35,000 years ago in the west, people appear to
> have facilitatively and opportunistically traveled along the coastal
> regions and island hopping, even as far as 100-200 miles, the focus
> was on coastal exploitation, with a limited ability to impact those
> enviroments or manipulate the environments.
With continental climates being what they are, it is highly probable that
man stuck to the regions with less severe maritime climates.
> snip >
>During these period mammoths may have
> been able to roam out of the highlands into the valleys at will. So
> this is another explanation as to why some instances of megafauna
> could survive.
What would mammoth want in the highlands? They are animals of the cold
steppe.
> snip >
>This cleared away I searched for
> instances of shell mounds elsewhere, except the United states, and
> the only comparable evidence I have seen is from eastern indonesia.
In Europe they are numerous too, called kjoekkenmoedinger.
> snip >
> Therefore it seems likely to me that the megafauna extinction that
> we see is the result of the nascent admixture of a technologically
> advanced african culture merging with a technologically advanced west
> asia culture toward the LGM and this culture then expands in the less
> culturally advanced regions of the mediterranean and in NE asia, the
> new world and down the and through china and eastern asia. Even so
> far as PNG. Since this culture is an inland hunting culture, it
> leaves far more evidence that the coastal culture, whose archaeology
> is at the mercy of sea levels.
This is certainly not true for the old world, palaeolithic settlements have
been excavated (Dolni Vestonice), hunting camps from people from very
different times. And it has been noted, that hunting patterns changed, as I
have indicated a number of times, that technologically advanced people
turned sedentary, hunting a great number of different species from a smaller
territory, while the older folks had specialised in hunting one or two
species and had had to follow them through a very large area.
> snip >
> I've painted there the broad side of a barn for those who want to
> shoot, start shooting.
You seem to have missed out the mammoth, or the extinction of the megafauna
to put it more general. Even if those japanese people had hunted mammoth,
even if they had succeeded in driving them away from their territories, they
would not even touch the heartland of the mammoth species. How could this
clarify mammoth extinction?
Sorry, I'am not convinced.
have fun
Uwe Mueller
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