Re: Celtic Origins

"Hayabusa" <peregrine@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:35:25 GMT, "Alan Crozier"
> <name1.name2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>>Would trade and commerce be enough to make a native population
>>adopt a new language? I would imagine that it would require some
>>speakers of the new language actually settling in the country.
>
> Just settling?!? That usually means in more concrete terms to kill the
> males and rape the females.

And that's something that many genetic studies tell us didn't happen in
Ireland, or Wales for that matter.

>
>>If those speakers also had power and prestige there would be
>>greater incentive for the natives to adopt the new language.
>
> Oh, there you are.
>
>>In other words, I incline to the old view of the Celts as an
>>invading warrior aristocracy in Ireland, whose language
>>gradually dominated and eradicated the old one(s). The speakers
>>of Celtic need not have been numerous to achieve this, just
>>powerful. This old view is not inconsist with the latest DNA
>>evidence.
>>
>>Or am I missing something?
>
> Not really. It would fit the most likely pattern.

It would fit the most likely pattern as was known in the first half of the
last century. It wouldn't fit the pattern as has been known for about the
last quarter century. Various genetic studies support the archaeological
evidence that no invasion took place. Therefore the languge came here by
other means. Unless it is a much older languge than anyone ever thought,
the most likely way it came here is via trade and contacts (and I'm
including piracy and raids in that).

>
> fkoe


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