Re: Celtic Origins


Alan Crozier wrote:
> "Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:dp5rt1dr1pugmra5a5sc72091uqhgjjubm@xxxxxxxxxx
> > On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:44:52 +0100, "Peter Alaca"
> <P.Alaca@xxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> > --- snip ---
> >
> > >>> Answer the question Eric, are you claiming that Swedes
> never existed
> > >>> until the country named Sweden was created?
> > >
> > >> I'm claiming that Inger never mentioned Sweden except as a
> geographic
> > >> identifier and you went off like a squib in response.
> > >>
> > >> If with respect to Bohuslan you want to ask me about
> whether or not
> > >> the Swedes existed at the time of the semi-mythical Tuatha
> De Danann I
> > >> suggest you look up both the geography and history of
> Bohuslan and
> > >> then carefully construct your definition of 'Swede'.
> > >
> > >Stay on the main road Eric.
> > >For what Inger wrote and implicated
> > >it makes no difference if she names it
> > >Sweden of Bohuslan.
> > >
> >
> > I'm not dealing with what Inger said but JMB's question at the
> top of
> > this quote. I'm also claiming that in the context of what
> Inger wrote
> > the question is a silly question and I have no intention of
> going down
> > the road JMB is trying to lead me.
> >
> > If there is evidence in Tanum province then there is evidence
> in Tanum
> > province, and that's that.
>
>
> This argument is getting tiresome. Remember how the thread
> started, with Peter Alaca posting an abstract of an interesting
> new article about Celtic origins. The discussion led to the
> written accounts of the various "invasions" of Ireland, and JMB
> pointed out that the Tuatha Dé Danaan belong to myth. Inger
> replied:
>
> "The Tuatha De Danann, might very well have been a
> real historic group. The time when they are mentioned in the
> Irish tales
> correspond well with the present knowledge of direct contacts
> between
> Tanum's parish in todays Bohuslän Sweden and Ireland/Scotland
> during Bronze
> Age"
>
> Note that she correctly says "today's Bohuslän Sweden",
> acknowledging the obvious fact that Bohuslän was not called that
> in the Bronze Age, nor was Sweden (and Bohuslän was not ceded to
> Sweden until 1658). Inger is talking about evidence of Bronze
> Age contacts between that part of what is now Sweden and
> Ireland/Scotland. There was no indication in that post of any
> superiority complex about Sweden.
>
> I'm sure many people would like to hear less futile argument
> about root vegetables and more about the evidence for this claim
> about contact. Here we have little concrete apart from the fact
> that Inger heard about it at a lecture at the museum in Tanum.
> An exact reference to a publication would be really welcome.
> Also some support for the dating of the Irish side of the
> alleged contacts: "The time when they are mentioned in the Irish
> tales" is rather vague, considering that they are quite possibly
> only tales.
>
> And Eric, Tanum is not a province. The province is called
> Bohuslän. Today's Tanum is one of the subdivisions of Bohuslän,
> known as a "härad", which can be translated "hundred" or
> "district".
>
> Alan
>
> --
> Alan Crozier
> Lund
> Sweden

Alan, is Bohuslan in Skane?

Bernard.

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