Re: Celtic Origins

"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:37:08 +0800, "hyperoglyphe"
> <hyperoglyphe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Inger E.Johansson" <inger e.johansson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Peter Alaca" <P.Alaca@xxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
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>>>> Inger E.Johansson wrote:  SXPDf.154972$dP1.513335@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
>>>>
>>>> > "Peter Alaca" <P.Alaca@xxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
>>>> > news:43dfca47$0$57978$dbd4f001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>>>> >> Big problem: the Tuatha De Danann is not dated.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> p.a.
>>>> >
>>>> > big PROBLEM  is that Tuatha De Danann's return IS dated if you only
>>>> > read at least good transcribed Gaelic texts when your translated
>>>> > versions don't give dates.
>>>>
>>>> Why is /that/ a problem?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> p.a.
>>>
>>> I don't have a personal problem with it because I am almost 100% sure
>>> that
>>> it's highly unlikely that the group of people origined from anywhere in
>>> Scandinavia,
>>> but
>>> I know of at least three respected scholars of history/archaeology who
>>> in
>>> private discussions tries to put forward theories re. Celts using
>>> archaeology but disregarding all that doesn't suit those theories. Among
>>> the
>>> written documentations I have heard put forward is the Tuatha De Danann
>>> tale.
>>>
>>> I said before and I said it again while it's possible that Denmark,
>>> Danmark
>>> for us Scandinavians, might have had it's name from groups belonging to
>>> Tuatha De Danann, the group definitely didn't origin anywhere in
>>> Scandinavia. Neither written Ancient or Early Medieval sources give any
>>> information as far as I know that could be said to be valid in that type
>>> of
>>> argumentation.
>>> On the other hand it does seem more than likely that it was from round
>>> the
>>> North Sea, including Skagerack and Kattegatt that same, to south the
>>> English
>>> Channel, where a megalith culture came to be spread during late Stone
>>> Age
>>> early Bronze Age, and it's to my knowledge never proven where it
>>> started.
>>>
>>> Inger E
>>
>>
>>My Ingerish is poor.  Does the above translate to "Mere mortals in the
>>Bogs
>>of Eire deified in hallowed Sviddish turf" or
>>is it "Gods from somewhere near modern Sweden (but not 'in' there) descend
>>to the mortal realm to drag the Irish bog dwellers out of the stone age."?
>>
> I would say 'neither'.
>
>
>
> Eric Stevens

So in relation to the Tuatha De Danann, this:

>>> I said before and I said it again while it's possible that Denmark,
>>> Danmark for us Scandinavians, might have had it's name from groups
>>> belonging to
>>> Tuatha De Danann, the group definitely didn't origin anywhere in
>>> Scandinavia. Neither written Ancient or Early Medieval sources give any
>>> information as far as I know that could be said to be valid in that type
>>> of argumentation. On the other hand it does seem more than likely that
>>> it was from round
>>> the North Sea, including Skagerack and Kattegatt that same, to south the
>>> English Channel, where a megalith culture came to be spread during late
>>> Stone
>>> Age early Bronze Age, and it's to my knowledge never proven where it
>>> started.

means what exactly?

Time to re-read "Gods and Fighting men" while waiting for my copy of
Cunliffe.  Mix a bit of Myth with a bit of Science.

Dave




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