Re: Geology Question (KRS related)


"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 05:39:02 -0500, "Steve Marcus"
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"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 17:37:33 -0500, "Steve Marcus"
<smarcus_spamout_@xxxxxxx> wrote:

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The KRS was discovered buried in soil that one might safely predicate
was
a
bit "swampy" or "boggy"; that condition was used to support
consideration
of
Runestone Hill as fitting the term "island" which appears on the KRS.

Aren't you jumping to a conclusion here? The runestone was found on
the side of a hill of 'glacial till'. Somebody (Daryl?) has already
pointed out that the term 'glacial till' covers a wide range of
possible materials but I am not aware that anyone has suggested that
the particular site ever was swampy or boggy. As far as I know, the
description of swampy/boggy has been applied to the conditions at the
foot of the hill but not the hill itself.

LOL. Wasn't the argument that the hill was "this island" (as which is how
the inscription reads) because the land is boggy and swampy?

I don't know why you feel the urge to 'LOL'. Are you trying to
minimise my point?

Not at all. I'm simply trying to engender a discussion. The LOL was at the
caveat that begins the last sentence. Oughtn't we to know the answer, since
Wolter clearly knows what the pH is on Runestone Hill?

If you wan't to continue to claim that someone has
argued that the hill was boggy and swampy, I suggest that you get up
off the floor and find a credible source for that allegation.
otherwise it makes no sense.

I feel otherwise.


Assuming that
the hill was not swampy or boggy, doesn't a rigorous analysis demand
comparison of below ground samples from the Maine tombstones with the KRS?

No useful conclusion could be drawn from such a study if the
conditions are significantly different, as they seem to be.

How can you claim this without taking a crack at explaining why the original
intent was to obtain samples of the slate tombstones from below ground, if
those samples were of no value to the weathering issue, and why minds got
changed about that importance due to different pH values betweenn Hallowell
and Kensington. Don't you think that *if* an acidic pH accelerates
weathering, that it might be important to compare both samples of the rocks
being compared taken from below ground, and test the soils in which they
were found for pH values? Or do you know that being buried for 30 years in
acidic soil cannot possibly account for an acceleration of the weathering of
the KRS? If so, please cite the passage in the Nielsen/Wolter book that so
states.


The authors seemed to think so since they clearly intended to take such
samples. They state that they did not do so because of a pH difference in
the soil between the Maine and Minnesota locations. If that's the case,
isn't the reader entitled to know what that pH difference was, and why it
impacted the originally intended comparison??

Do I
conclude from your post that burying a stone in swampy or boggy
conditions
would not accelerate the weathering of biotite so as to impart a "200
year
old appearance" to, let's say, a 100 year old inscription that had been
buried for 50 years?



Eric Stevens


Steve



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