Re: The Early Germans


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On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:59:21 GMT, "Alan Crozier"
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The tradenet is what those early iron age residences (princely
sites) are all about. And the change in domination of the
western Med, after the naval battles with Etruscans and
Phoenecians, shows up fast enough as a difference in the origin
of imported goods in those early Latène burials. They have
direct Greek imports while the late Hallstatt ones show Etruscan
intermediaries. Would all of this have been forgotten to be
re-invented in Phillips time?


Obviously the french population has been influenced by outside forces
over a long period of time. The nodal haplotypes in france start #7
on the list of haplotypes, and these share similarity with haplotypes
found in east asia. The problem with france is two-fold.

1. How do you separate the influence of the greeks from the romans,
genetically, since th romans appear to be so heavily influenced by
outside sources.

The Romans were originally Etruscans. According to their myths, the female
population came from the Sabinae. The Etruscans were heavily influenced by
the Greek and the Phoenicians and had old connections across the Alps.

Rome is a city, a community, an empire, a culture, an economical system and
a system of myths and stories. But genetically speaking there are no Romans,
because there was no restriction on breeding only with Romans.

2. The substructure of the french population is not great based on
genetic analysis.

However given the lack of obvious nodes evident in the iberian and
surrounding populations, and given the alleles which have already
been assigned to those surrounding peoples it seems to me a very
cogent theory that one author put forth proposing a gulf of leon
enclave of LGM dwellers, relatively diverse the repopulation france.
the gene flux from that region appears to have continued through the
holocene.

Better theories come with better data.

There seem to be a number of research programs running, that take samples
directly from prehistoric bones. We'll just have to wait a little.

have fun

Uwe Mueller


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