Re: Early Christian Danes




"Per Rønne" <per@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
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Erik Hammerstad <egeha.is.all.you.need@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Two Danish churches (Sebbersund and Fredbjerg) with churchyards
and hence christian graves have been dated to 800-900. However, as
the blogs note, both dating and interpretation of the finds are
contested. Also in Norway there are churchyards predating 1000 AD.

And in reality, it would be no major news if Christian graves earlier
than Harald Bluetooth were to be found. After all, missionaries in
Denmark are known long before his time.

There have been much much older christian graveyards found in Denmark. First
you all better learn that the same type of graves called Christian graves in
southern Europe starts to become common same time in Denmark. skeleton
graves the earliest around 100 AD could have OSO-VNV direction, outside
Jutland that is,
BUT
in Northern and Central Jutland the direction of almost all from 100 AD to
300 AD were O-V. In some cases the graveyards are larger than one could
expect for a few families. Much larger. Outside Jutland on the Danish
islands the majority of the skeletongraves burial practise started during
same time, but a majority of these graves had other directions - OSO-VNV,
E-W or S-N. In some cases, especially on the islands gravegifts have been
found.
sources(among many I chosen easily found works for you to read in):
Klindt-Jensen Ole, Foreign influences in Denmark´s early ironage, Køpenhavn
1950, page 176-179

In Skane the Christian(at least Christian influenced) grave customs as in
Jutland became the most practised one in the late 3rd century. Started
around 100 AD also here.
Source: Strömberg Märtha, Järnåldersguld i Skåne, Lund 1963 page 44

Now comes the most important fact to notice. Remember that one fly doesn't
make a summer....
From same period close to 100 AD the custom change in Norway as well! This
pattern, which I know that some of the later archaelogists in Norway seems
to have forgotten about, was especially common all way up to Troms in Noble
Ladies graves between 100 AD and 300 AD. What's interesting to notice is
that there were an influence direction from the area around todays Oslo
towards eastern parts of Norway, AND that the direction indicated Christian
graves most of them without gravegifts BUT many of them still had
coffin-remains found under and around the skeleton.
source(also here I refer to one of the many works which are easily found):
Norsk Historie, bind 1 red. prof. Knut Mykland, Oslo 1976, page 252-256,
281ff, 398-402 and 416-421.

Happy Easter and Happy reading!
Inger E
--
Per Erik Rønne
http://www.RQNNE.dk


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