Re: Fire ecology N and S of the Alps since the last ice age
- From: "Peter Alaca" <P.Alaca@xxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 12:11:26 +0200
Eric Stevens wrote: news:udk462lnt6o0vnmmop9ck6uvm2t0vpblrg+AEA-4ax.com
+AD4- On Wed, 10 May 2006 20:32:18 +-0200, +ACI-Peter Alaca+ACI- +ADw-P.Alaca+AEA-556.nn+AD4-
+AD4- wrote:
+AD4-
+AD4APg- Fire ecology north and south of the Alps since the last ice age
+AD4APg- Tinner, W+ADs- M. Conedera, B. Ammann +ACY- AF Lotter
+AD4APg- The Holocene, 15( 8) 2005, pp. 1214-1226
+AD4APg- http://tinyurl.com/g4zos
+AD4APg- (contents page, the pdf is 13 pp, 1.14 mb)
+AD4APg-
+AD4APg- Abstract: +AFs-...+AF0-
+AD4- This is interesting. The assumption appears to be that the burning has
+AD4- been localised and (principally) initiated by man for his own
+AD4- purposes. However, some years ago the following passage from Jurgen
+AD4- Spanuth's 'Atlantis of the North' caught my attention.
+AD4-
+AD4- Begin quote: +AFs-...+AF0-
+AD4- End quote
+AD4-
+AD4- Spanuth is suggesting some common cause of widespread fire other than
+AD4- man, lightning etc. I have always wondered how well his observations
+AD4- of more than 40 years ago have been confirmed by modern research.
His named sources are dated 1914, 1941 and 1953, so even
at the time of writing (1979) they were not state of the art
..
+AD4- Is there evidence to suggest the existence of widespread fires
+AD4- at what have been the same time?
As far as I remember, this is new to me, despite the fact
that Holland is mentioned. And to be honest, a pan-European
wildfire seems not very likely to me. If it was true, you sould
also found the traces in every lake sediment.
Perhaps to the innocent, traces of slash-and-burn agriculture
may give the impression of widespread fire, but than there is
no reason to connect this with burned Greek palaces.
If this was one event or several major evend close in time,
then Europe woud be ravaged.
This allegedly happend around 1000 BC, but it is not
demonstrable in the European pollenrecords. What we
see there is an accelerated deforestation, culminating
around 500 BC (the beginning of the Iron age).
And it is mirrored by a clear increase in cultivated and
meadow plants.
As the Tinner study states: Wildfires are very rare in central
Europe. I think they are very rare everywhere, and those
caused by lightning are extremely rare.
+AD4- In writing that last sentence I am well aware of the problems of
+AD4- determining simultaneity across 3000-4000 years.
Yes, if this took 1000 years, there was not much of
a disaster.
--
p.a.
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