Re: Iron artifacts validated with prejudges

Eric Stevens wrote: news:aje1a21dhebcts3en00oieer1e83gr9s3q@xxxxxxx
Russell Sheptak wrote:
Eric Stevens wrote:
"Peter Alaca" wrote:

Mercator 1633
"Virginiae item et Floridae Americae Provinciarum nova descriptio."
http://tinyurl.com/qpu3t

Dudley 1646
"Carta particolare della costa di Florida e di Virginia."
http://tinyurl.com/rzely

There are two interesting things about that second map. The first is
that, while no boundaries are shown, Florida appears to extend well
north into what now would be North Carolina. This suggests that the
old stories of the Norse having got as far south as Florida might
not be at all unlikely.

I'm not sure why you find this interesting. The Spanish have already
colonized Florida, which at this point includes parts of North and
South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi and Louisiana. There are
Spanish Mission's in Georgia and the Carolinas in the 17th century.
The English also know this coast quite well. Drake sacked St.
Augustine in the 1580s, and pirates from France, Britain, and the
Netherlands often waited in these waters for the Spanish Gold fleet
from Mexico to happen by. In the 17th century the French and
English begin reducing the boundaries of Spanish Florida to more
like what the State of Florida is today, pushing them out of the
Carolinas and Georgia.

How does a 1646 Italian map tell us anything about the Norse having
gotten as far south as Florida. You lost me with that statement.

It told me something about the usage of the name 'Florida'. The
standard reaction to the suggestions that the Norse may have got as
far as Florida is something like "Ooh - that's a long way south", but
its not such a long way south if previously it was held to start in
North Carolina.

Having said that, I still don't know how old is the suggestion of
Norse in Florida is and I don't know where the suggester thought
Florida extended at the time. Nevertheless it does open up for
consideration further possibilities, not the least of which is that
suggestions of Norse in Carolina might be geographically congruent
with suggestions of Norse in Florida.

That is nonsense Eric. Florida didn't exist in the norse time
and if someone suggests the Norse in Florida, then Florida
was where it is now.

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p.a.

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