Re: Iron artifacts validated with prejudges

In article <m0k0a2hbjqp4h4gmijqcfg6ciu0e6lamoo@xxxxxxx>,
Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:14:13 +0200, "Peter Alaca" <P.Alaca@xxxxxx>
wrote:

Dylan Sung wrote: news:e7olb0$3o2$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

"IE J" <inger_e.johansson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ElQng.6306$E02.1921@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Joe and Doug,
if anyone is bizarr it's you two yourself.
A sailor on a ship that's accelerating due to entering strong
streams, does
of course accelerate him or herself.
Where were Doug during that type of experiment during his High School
years?

And while Virginia today only is north of North Carolina the maps
from the early days which I have has Virginia on all way down to
Florida. In other word both north and south of North Carolina.

How marvellous. Itinerant states of America.

Mercator 1633
"Virginiae item et Floridae Americae Provinciarum nova descriptio."
http://tinyurl.com/qpu3t

Dudley 1646
"Carta particolare della costa di Florida e di Virginia."
http://tinyurl.com/rzely

There are two interesting things about that second map. The first is
that, while no boundaries are shown, Florida appears to extend well
north into what now would be North Carolina. This suggests that the
old stories of the Norse having got as far south as Florida might not
be at all unlikely.

I'm not sure why you find this interesting. The Spanish have already
colonized Florida, which at this point includes parts of North and South
Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi and Louisiana. There are Spanish
Mission's in Georgia and the Carolinas in the 17th century. The English
also know this coast quite well. Drake sacked St. Augustine in the
1580s, and pirates from France, Britain, and the Netherlands often
waited in these waters for the Spanish Gold fleet from Mexico to happen
by. In the 17th century the French and English begin reducing the
boundaries of Spanish Florida to more like what the State of Florida is
today, pushing them out of the Carolinas and Georgia.

How does a 1646 Italian map tell us anything about the Norse having
gotten as far south as Florida. You lost me with that statement.



The second interesting thing is that on the south side of 'Bay de
Chesapiack' is a region labeled "Windande' Coia". This is supposedly
the name of the region given to the settlers of the first Raleigh
expedition, for which name all kinds of explanations have been given.
It is interesting to note that the name still survived to be
transcribed in the original phonetics by an Italian (albeit working
for the English) nearly a century later.

Thank you, Peter, for an interesting map.



Eric Stevens
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