Re: Bronze Age in the Baltic

"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:43:16 +0200, "Peter Alaca" <P.Alaca@xxxxxx>
wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote: news:p0v3a217du5gvm81mdv9fk1ial37bkmjeh@xxxxxxx

On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:07:32 +0200, "Peter Alaca" <P.Alaca@xxxxxx>
wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:
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"Peter Alaca" wrote:
Eric Stevens wrote:
"Uwe Müller" wrote:
"Eric Stevens" schrieb
"Uwe Müller" wrote:
"Eric Stevens" schrieb

An aquaintance has referred interesting theory to me, which
may stand or fall on the basis of archaeological evidence
for
Bronze Age manufacture and trading in the Baltic.
Unfortunately I don't know enough about this to form an
opinion.

Can anyone tell me if:

a) There is evidence of a significant Bronze Age centre of
metal working or trading in any particular part of the
Baltic.
The relevant metals are (obviously) copper, tin and
possibly
zinc.

There is a centre of very rich burials in a region that
otherwise knows little differences in burial goods. It is
supposed to have been situated at the crossroads of the
amber
and copper trade.

b) Where the centre is located.

In the Brandenburg area of Prignitz, with the 'kings grave'
at
Seddin, near Perleberg, as the center.

http://www.bldam.brandenburg.de/sixcms/detail.php?id=62313&template=archd1
or
http://tinyurl.com/mxthd

There are a number of richly furnished graves in the
vicinity
indicating that power stuctures had been alive for more than
a
generation.

c) What is the evidence for its existence and where is it
possible to read about it.

Can you read German? Do you have access to regional
literature
from Germany? If not try Königsgrab Seddin with Google
(watch
the Umlaut).

I have only a general knowledge of the bronze age
activities
in the Baltic and it is the evidence for the existence of a
specific centre of commercial or, possibly, military power
in
which I am interested.

The area in question is situated at the crossroads of
trading
routes to the North, South, East and West. Artefacts and
technical knowledge from those regions seem to have been
available to people in this area.

Thank you Uwe, although I don't know that what you told me is
going to help the theory of my correspondent. :-?

What is the theory of your correspondent? Does it rule out the
location of this center being in the southwest Baltic?

I think he tends to favor the north.

What does he mean with "the north"?
And why is he in favor of the north?
This is all extremely vague.

I know it's vague. My question original question was deliberately
vague so as to avoid either inadvertantly focussing the enquiry
or
prejudging the outcome. If my correspondent's theory is correct
there will be "archaeological evidence for Bronze Age manufacture
and trading" on the site. (I accept that that does not mean that
the site has necessarily been found and investigated.)

Another reason for being vague is that I (again deliberately) was
only asking after archaeological aspects. You will understand
why,
after recent hammerings, I was not prepared to introduce a
possibly
contentious non-archaeological topic which could only lead to my
simple question being dragged down into the swamps of OT
argument.

You don't answer my questions.
You rejected Prignitz as being too far south.
So what /is/ acceptable?
In other words: what is "the Baltic" mentioned
in your question?
You can't expect to get answers on the basis
of the information you provided.

Peter,

I'm not asking anyone to prove or disprove any particular theory.

Did I say that?

I'm
just asking whether or not there is any archaeological evidence for
a
centre of Bronze Age metal manufacture and trading in the Baltic.
Uwe
Mueller's answer was exactly the kind the kind of information I was
looking for. My comment about preferring further north merely
implied
that Uwe's information did not help my correspondent's theory. But
that's life. :-)

I've got no axe to grind. I'm merely seeking information.

Yes, but as I said, you can't expect to get answers on
the basis of the vague information you provided.
What is the Baltic north of Prignitz?

Norway, Sweden, Finland, Karelia, and possibly even some of the
intervening islands.

I'm not asking is there evidence for a centre of manufacture and
trading at such and such a location. All I'm asking is for help
identifying such centres as there may have been in the general region.

Norway has no connection with the Baltic.

Anyway, if all this has to do with the insane theory that the events in
the Iliad took place in the Baltic, then the whole discussion is a waste
of time.

Alan

--
Alan Crozier
Lund
Sweden


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