Re: The Neolithic/Mesolithic Boundary(4) Climatic Instability Gives way to Stability

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The period between 9640 BC and the neolithic is roughly 4000
years and so it covers a relatively long period of time, in much
of europe, nothing is happening in the begining of the period.

1. Glacier remain over the NW and N expanses.

2. Production is relatively low, the animals that exist tended
to migrate over long distances and are widely dispersed.

Widely dispersed? Never heard of animals
(Reindeer, Deer) living in herds, migrating
the same routes from summer grazing grounds
to winter grazing grounds and back?

3. In terms of edible grasses, europe is not a prime spot

I am sure the animals had a completely
different opinion about that.

4. And to make matters worse the things that tend to grow
first are the massive light blocking pinus species that really
screw up the soil for everything else.

Still the same bull***. No one hold it against you
when you know not much outside your own field,
but you can be blamed for ignoring correct information
provided to you more than once in more than one form.
I repeat part of one of my earlier posts

Oleg Polunin & Martin Walters
A guide to the vegetation of Britain and Europe
Oxford University Press 1985
Parts of chapter 4:
Recent history of the development of vegetation in Europe

"During the pre-Boreal period (10000 - 95000 bp),
pollen analysis shows a rapid increase of
Juniper followed by Birch and later an influx of
Pine from the warmer south. Light woods
developed in the northern parts of Europe.

In the Boreal period (95000 - 75000 bp) warmer-
loving deciduous trees and bushes, such as
oaks and elms, and in particular Hazel,
/Corylus avellana/, became abundant in north-
western Europe. Forests of Pine and Birch and
thickets of Hazel became widespread in the
early-Boreal period.

The Atlantic period (75000 - 5000 bp) was the
warmest and most humid of the post-glacial
periods. Oaks and Wych elm, /Ulmus glabra/,
became abundant and formed forests, and at
the same time there was a marked increase in
Alder, /Alnus glutinosa/. Limes, /Tilia/ species,
had their widest distribution in England at this
time, indicating the warmer climate, while in
Scandinavia there was a marked increase of
pollen of Ivy, /Hedera helix/; and the great Fen-
sedge, /Cladium mariscus/, in Sweden. The
distinctive increase of peat deposits and raised
bogs also indicated heavier rainfall and greater
humidity.

Mixed oak forests, with elms and limes became
the climax forests and covered large areas of
Europe. They were well established in Britain for
example, to altitudes of at least 750 m, while
species of open habitats became much less
evident. Coastal plants... continue to survive in
'refuges' to this present day, far south of their
present main distribution. Also ... open-habitat
species ... showed much reduced pollen counts
at this period, only to return abundantly later
when man-made habitats began to develop."

Bonuses:
Jonathan Adams
"Europe during the last 150,000 years"
http://www.esd.ornl.gov/projects/qen/nercEUROPE.html

From: Andre Leroi Gourhan
"The Hunters of Prehistory", New York 1989
http://tinyurl.com/gmol8

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