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On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 11:23:17 GMT, "Inger E"
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 06:25:14 GMT, "Inger E"
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 18:17:29 -0500, "Searles O'Dubhain"
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 21:36:38 GMT, in sci.archaeology, Inger
E
wrote:

When was Orkney first 'colonized' or do someone at least
know how
old
the
oldest known remain of a house is?

It's noted that the Faero Island had lots of sheeps running
wild
when
the
first known ships passed by.
How old is the oldest known artifact found on any of the
Faero
Island?


There's a UNESCO World Heritage site there, Heart of
Neolithic
Orkney.
I
thought everyone here might have heard of the houses at
Skara
Brae,
and of
course Maeshowe, about 5000 years old. And of course the
Ring of
Brodgar,
but that isn't as famous.

Doug

Amazing how these sites were there so long ago. Was the
climate
warmer
when they were built?


There was a particularly warm period somewhere about then,
much
warmer
than anything in the last 2000 years, but my hazy memory can't
pin
down the date.

Anyhow in light of present days discussions re. global warming
and
rising
waterlevels, I think it's fair to say that during an intervall
in that
warm
period the Ocean's waterlevels were 15 meter higher than
today.....

Oooh ... I don't know about that.

Can you give a citation?

In Swedish? Remember that when my father started to work as one of
the
first
in the global environmental problematic field, almost all important
works
and studies were written in Swedish. That continued to be the case
long
after I myself as one of four introduced Humanecology in early
70's.....
Then there are of course one or two discussing the waterlevel
problematic
higher and lower during periods at the same time as land in north,
from
Scandinavia to Kamtjaka and from Alaska to Newfoundland rised, the
waterlevel lines can't be said to be as easy to follow. The last
time we
had
a rise in the Ocean's waterlevel started around 600 AD and
continued up
to
mid 1300's. Today's so called critical Ice melting in the Arctic
hasn't
reached 1/3 (only 1/6) of the melted Ice -> ocean water as it was
around
1100 AD......
I will return with more info but it takes some time.

All I need is a citation, not a quotation.

I am sure there are people here who can read Swedish and confirm the
accuracy of your source.

In fact, I suspect you may be recalling the substance of work the
conclusions of which have since been superceded.

No I am not. What I used when I had that part up in the pre-stage of
my
C-essay re. the Waterways in Ancient Age towards Lake Roxen, were
official
'very dry written' documentation from larger studies.
That's why I can't use the direct quotes. Lists of figures is one
thing, the
possibility for others to get hold of those during study official
written
but edited to a minor group of scholar within the system, is an other.
One
of the works I had at hand only exists in few copies outside those who
had a
need to have them for their work.
Now the other Swedish edited works I mentioned are written using same
'material'/sources. None of them are efficient to prove anything. The
proof
lies in the former.
I think there is a Norwegian work that might be handy for quotes.
Haven't
read it since mid 1990's but my notes seem to indicate that it is.

Inger, you can correct me if I'm wrong here. I took a quick look through
your C-essay to find references to changing water levels. The only
reference to a 'dry written' document that I can find comes under the
heading "The geological history and land-rise curve of the area", note
33, referring to Lars Håkansson and Thorsten Ahl, SNV PM740 NLU Rapport
88, Uppsala 1976. Somehow the actual title of the report was omitted,
but it's _Vättern: Recenta sediment och sedimentkemi_ ("Lake Vättern:
Recent sedimentary deposits and sediment chemistry").

I don't know if Eric can get hold of that. Nor do I know whether it says
anything of relevance to the Orkneys. You can find details at the Royal
Library catalogue. Type sediment into the title field, Ahl into the
author field and 1974 as the publication year.

A second-hand copy is available here:
http://www.hjortedsantikvariat.se/booklists/vastergotland2.htm

Eric could also contact one of the authors:
http://www.geo.uu.se/luva/personal.aspx?namn=lars.h%C3%A5kanson

Alan

The one you refered to is one of the works I choosed not to quote from
because it's not there the proof can be found but in 'arbetsmaterial' the
funny category we use here in Sweden for material which aren't published
officially but still can be 'editede many times without ISBN number. If you
have a Report or an offical published document/report or work, then there
usually are a lot of studies behind that report which never fully is
published......

Inger E







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