Re: Atlantis was situated in the Indian Ocean?
- From: mike4ty4@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: 28 Oct 2006 18:18:03 -0700
There's a lot here to go through, so I didn't answer _every_ point, but
I do answer some that jumped out at me.
ivars.fabriciuss@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
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After visiting India in October 2006, including Saurashtra peninsula,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saurashtra, on a tourist trip, seeing
Lothal and Bet Dwarka, I am even more sure that Atlantis was situated
in Indian Ocean, South West to current Dwarka, ( in Sanskrit=door)
which was a city that connected India to Atlantis via a narrow land
strip, not wider than northern tip of Saurahstra peninsula - 30 km.
Atlantis went under water when Earth crust split along a Mid-Ocean
Ridge fault lines, approximately 11 580 -11 650 years Before Present.
Its size was as Egyptians described it, with famous South Coast
mountain and North and coastal mountains and oblong plain visible in
the oceanic topography (see picture with Atlantis map on it). The time
obtained from Vostok ice core data of dust concentration increase
coincides with Plato's 9000 years + 600 BC the original story of Solon
= 9600 Before Christ= 11600 Before Present.
How did it "split" like this, enough to swallow up a whole island the
size of Atlantis, cataclysmically? Plato also does not give the Indian
Ocean as the location, he gives the Atlantic Ocean, as the "Columns
of Hercules" he uses refers to the promontories at the sides of the
strait of Gibraltar between Africa and Europe, NOT the sides of the
Red Sea outlet to the Indian Ocean as you want. He says that one
could go outside the Columns to the "true Ocean", where one
would reach Atlantis, then other islands, and then the continent
that "surrounds" it (America). And as he desribes the Atlantean
Empire he says it ranged as far "west" as parts of that continent,
and as far "east" as Egypt and Tyrrhenia. From an Indian point
of reference, Egypt and Tyrrhenia are WEST, not east, and
the "continent" on the opposite side of the ocean (Australasia,
Malaya, etc.) is EAST. The Atlantic, not Indian, ocean is where
one should be looking. Of interest is Spartel Island, a small
submerged island just outside Gibraltar, as are the Azores,
espeically the southern part.
The places where "lost" cities may exist, Atlantis or not, are the
lands that were submerged at the end of the last Ice Age. If
Atlantis did exist, I believe that this process, the melting of
glacial ice, is what "sank" it into the sea.
....
Homer in his Odyssey says that after leaving Calypso and sailing " and
17 days he sailed, making headway well; on the eighteenth, shadowy
mountains slowly loomed.... the Phaeacians Island reaching toward him
now."After some struggle he reached land where "trees will never flag
or die, neither in winter nor in summer , a harvest all Year round for
the West Wind always breathing through.... " . The place where the West
Wind is always blowing is situated between 40-50th South latitude, and
one possibility for Phaeacia is current French Southern Antarctic
Islands.
It takes longer than 17 days to sail that far south. PS. Trees don't
grow in
Antarctica, it's far too cold and icy. During the Ice Age times of
Atlantis
it would be colder still. Antarctica is cold and uninhabitable. Another
flaw
with your theory.
Undoubtedly, closer study of Odyssey will provide more proofs of
Atlantis in Indian Ocean.
There is more evidence as underwater town was found in the Gulf of
Cambay in 2002:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1768109.stm
"The remains of what has been described as a huge lost city may force
historians and archaeologists to radically reconsider their view of
ancient human history.
Marine scientists say archaeological remains discovered 36 metres (120
feet) underwater in the Gulf of Cambay off the western coast of India
could be over 9,000 years old.
The vast city - which is five miles long and two miles wide - is
believed to predate the oldest known remains in the subcontinent by
more than 5,000 years."
But that does not mean it is Atlantis. It might be that above-mentioned
Kumari Kandam, or part of it, though... More investigation will be
needed
before any real conclusions can be made, and crowing "ATLANTIS!!!"
is not reasonable at this point, and also the idea that that's what it
is
seems unlikely given Plato's accounts.
This may lead to reconsideration of borders of Atlantis, but can as
well be part of another island civilization of Atlantis time, placed
beyond Atlantis as described in Plato.
Conclusion: Safe places are situated so that during Earth crust
oscillations they remain intact, located more or less on oscillation
axis. These axis are not stationary- every new extinction event may
happen along different axis. Truly adaptive species always find these
places beforehand. It is away from huge deltas (including Inland) ,
hills and trenches.
Vostok Ice Core data shows that change in Carbon Dioxide concentration
direction was followed by massive increase in dust
levels.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vostok_420ky_4curves_insolation.jpg
What do you mean by "Earth crust oscillations"? Do you mean the famous
"pole shift" theories (given your references to some sort of "axis")?
If
so, remember that the last known "pole shift" (true polar wander)
happened nearly one billion (that's 1,000,000,000) years ago, shorly
after
eukaryotic cells evolved from bacteria, and it took millions of years
to
complete. What are you referring to here?
This old Atlantis map may not be exact, but Africa to the left, Pillars
of Heculess, is supporting Indian Ocean hypothesis despite numerous
attempts to turn the map by 180 degrees. I see no need to complicate
things in this way.
As to America to its right, for some reason, Europeans tended to mix
India with America and , obviously, vice versa.
Islands to the right will be identified from Odyssey, Iliad, Aenida,
Plato etc.
Ocean Atlanticus is just the name of the ocean where Atlantis is.
What do You think?
No, the "Atlantic Ocean" is named for Atlas, as is Atlantis. You have:
Atlantis -> [Atlanti]c Ocean
The truth:
Atlas -> [Atla]ntis, [Atla]ntic Ocean.
"Atlantic Ocean" is from a Greek phrase meaning the "sea of Atlas",
not that of Atlantis. "Atlantis" means "of Atlas", so the island of
"Atlantis" is actually the island of ATLAS -- "Atlantis nesos" is the
Greek phrase referring to the island: "atlantis" = "of Atlas", "nesos"
=
"the island", so "the island of Atlas".
.
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