Re: Ancient latrine fuels debate at Qumran

On 10 Jan 2007 15:47:57 -0800, in sci.archaeology, Carl wrote:

Doug Weller wrote:
...
You need to do some more research. It is crystal clear that there is
considerable dispute about this -- and that opinion is slowly shifting
from the facile assumptions made in the 1940s as more evidence is
uncovered.
...

Hi Doug,

I don't know whether you gave my message a close read. There was
plenty of meat in it and
no facile assumptions. I ask you now to give it a close reread.

Dr. Thiering puts the Essenes at Qumran starting 140 BC on the basis of
TLevi 17:10.
R. T.Beckwith, in an important article ("The Significance of the
Calendar for Interpreting Essene Chronology and Eschatology". Revue de
Qumran 10,1980, 167-202) established the fact that the jubilees in the
Testament of Levi give us exact dates, whereas it was previously
thought that they were indefinite periods of time.

Page 168 of Thiering's 1992 book lays out the Essene scheme of World
History as a
revision following correction of date of Fall of Jerusalem. This
scheme is found in Testament
of Levi 17. Any Essene scheme of world history is based on the solar
calendar.

It is on the basis of Essene solar calendar that Dr. Thiering made her
interpretation of
the Qumran Sundial/"stone disk" in her 2002 article.

In my view archaeologists interested in Qumran should be familiar with
Essene Solar
Calendar and its variants.

It depends upon their interests.

The bottom line is you don't appear to be familiar with the current
archaeological debate and you don't understand its importance. You wrote
"
Now, getting outside archaeoloogy, the vast majority of scholars accept
that Qumran
was Essene, based mostly on textual analysis of DSS.
"

Which shows, to me, that you really don't understand the arguments. Or are
just ignoring them. Textual analysis of DSS tells you about DSS. The
archaeology will tell you about Qumran.

To others reading this. I've been following, albeit loosely, this debate
elswhere. Wikipedia isn't too bad on this, so here's the url:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls

So you can see that even the quote above about scholars 'outside
archaeology' is wrong.

Doug
--
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