Re: North America's Bronze Age?


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The word "bronze" is not mentioned anywhere in the article.

So why is the heading of this thread "North America's Bronze Age" ?

A little misleading don't you think?

Only for fools who can't read the lines I wrote! Are you such?

Oh dear!
I read your heading and asked a very simple question. Maybe you should
get
a
better grasp of English before calling people "fools". Maybe then you
will
be a little easier to understand!!

The heading is written in correct English as intended.'

But only copper artifacts are mentioned in the North Amertica articles,
No Bronze.

Only fools like you can miss that a question needs background.
Background for question presented in the first article.
Please observe 'Bronze Age items' and not 'Bronze artifacts' or 'Bronze
Age
artifacts'

No mention of Bronze in the North America articles.
Only Copper.

The former include as Alan asked and I answered on his
clarification-question - ALL of the items.
Please observe not only artifacts.
An artifact(Brittish English 'artefact') is a functional or decorative
man-made object.
An item is an individual article or unit of articles.
Please observe that I in the first article gave ref to a Swedish word
'Brons' to be searched for in Google. Also Please observe that Jack L in
message written 6:23 PM 28th April wrote:

But no mention of Bronze in the North America articles. Only copper.

"Almost all copper ores contain some small proportion of arsenic, tin,
zinc, antimony, or nickel, which mixes at the molecular level with the
copper during smelting<in other words, a tremendous number of subtly
different alloys can emerge out of a smelter after a mixture of ore
has been smelted,.."
which was the full fact to which the Swedish explinations of word 'brons'
gave the information that the earliest bronze came to be produced by
coincidence due to the fact that the copper ore hardly ever is pure and
that
tin was present in the earliest Old World produced Bronze artifacts due to
this one time or an other coincidently produced harder and better alloy
which gave better tools and weapons than the older types of such.

But is there any mention of bronze in North America?

Only a fool can miss that the ref I sent which gave the information that
the
copper artifacts found in America could have their copper ore traced back
to
where it came from. This is due to the wellknown fact that ore from one
site
has a different 'fingerprint' than ore from an other.
It takes less than a gram of an artifact to trace the origin ore's site.
When you have a spectrum of sites, you also have a spectrum of
ore-structures. It wouldn't be likely that none of the American ones
didn't
contain at least part of tin in ore from at least one of the sites.

Did any of the articles present evidence of tin in any of the sitess?
If not then any discussion is idle speculation, not evidence.
Even if there were tim in the copper, there is no evidence of smelting, so
no Bronze in North America.

Thus it seem likely that Bronze could, as it did in the Bolivian cast
case,
be produced in America before Columbus set sail.

Somehow we have gotten from the unsupported assertion that it "wouldn't be
likely that there wasn't tim in some of the copper ore.", with absolutely no
evidence that there was. to a claim that if such ore did exidt some of it
"must have" become bronze, again with no evidence to support the assertion.


From that the question
arrives. Please observe that I didn't give any more limits than that an
American Bronze Age probably must have started after the earliest melting
and/or usage of Bronze artifacts over fire.

For which "melting" you have produced not one shred of evidence.

If you can't follow the origin text, your problem, but if you can't by now
understand why the question is rised your education must have problems or
you must have missed your education!

Inger E






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