Re: African presence in Europe from 1.7 mya?

Marc Washington <paulmarcw@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:

On May 18, 1:17 pm, benlizross <benli...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Marc Washington wrote:

mya = million years ago

I'd like to ask where the facts are in error concerning there being
an African presence in Northern Europe from 1.7 mya in the Old
Stone Age until the time (and some centuries after) of Julius
Caesar. If you could write me offline from the bottom of any of the
pages below, I would appreciate it.

Thank you,

Marc Washington

Hi Marc,
I'd like to ask exactly how you identify people as "African"? What
is it about the Saami, the Scythians, and so on that you consider
them "African"? I would appreciate it if you could answer on this
newsgroup.

Ross Clark

________

Hello Ross. The definition I use for "African" is from the home page
to my site:

http://www.beforebc.de/index2.html

You have asked why I consider the Saami and Scythians African. From
the archeological evidence, early Saami and Scythians were not white.
I suppose there will be a lot of disagreement about that but I have a
fair amount of material (either / or masks, figurine, cranium)
sometimes over 2000 years old showing this point. I don't expect the
preceding sentence to convince anyone who holds a different opinion.

It has nothing to do with different opinions, but with evidence.
Show us your black skinned cranium.


Concerning my defintion of "African" at the above url is found the
following:

"THE THREE GREAT RACES AND THEIR MERGERS: The three great races are
the Mongul, the White, and African. Until near 2300 BC, they were
completely isolated from each other but since have mixed [http://
www.beforebc.de/Made.by.Humankind/Real.People/02-17Mx-02.html
]creating new sub-races as in Southeast Asia and the Pacific. The
present work focuses not on the sub-races or Mongul or White but
African. And, why? Much has been written about the others but the
African is usually passed-over as being but a yawn; an insignificant
footnote to history. Especially when contributions to civilization are
concerned. There is, thus, an information vacuum or information gap.
Here the attempt is made to bridge that gap.

THE LOOK OF THE AFRICAN: Let's omit color. Color aside, how are
Africans distinguished: especially as art subjects and in ancient rock
drawings, stone figurine, and human remains from 5000 years ago and
earlier? African-looking people are the focus of this site. Not all
will agree, but some Africans will be found with wavy hair. Others
have curly hair. Sometimes, Africans have straight hair as the Afro-
American U.S. Secretary of State, Donna Rice (these cases the result
of miscegenation). [http://www.beforebc.de/Made.by.Humankind/
Real.People/02-17Mx-02.html ]

Still, on one hand, Africans are people who typically have or are
inclined to have (not "must" have) a "head like pure wool" as the Son
of Man was described in Daniel 7:9; and have a full nose, and full
mouth. Yet, the figurine of the Pygmy may be shown as steatophygous.
The Kung or Bushman is very slender and has delicate facial features,
not broad. Prognasthism (a projecting lower jaw) may exist. African
human remains show skulls that are long rather than round; although it
may come as a surprise the Khoisan (Bushman) has a round skull
[http:// www.beforebc.de/all_africa/05-09c.html ]and it was they in
prehistoric Mesopotamia, Sudan, and Egypt."

Marc

Please go elsewere, this is sci.archaeology.

--
p.a.

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