SV: the figurine of Calixtahuaca, and the Prof. of Anthropology


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On May 22, 6:36 pm, "johansson" <1732johans...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Some here still say they haven't seen the url:s which I sent to the group
re. the Roman figurine found in Calixtahuaca. No doubt they never looked
into all the url:s I sent. One of them led to Prof. Dr Michael E Smith who
is by far the most respected ones of those who tries hard to speak against
the figurine being of Roman origin.

I guess it's fair to give Prof Smith's background before I start to
discuss
his articles in this question.
here is his own homepage:http://www.public.asu.edu/~mesmith9/
I don't know why 'our' own excellent 'Hu' haven't refered to Prof Smith in
the article on Hu's page where the figurine is discussed. I can't say that
I
am surprised since most of the articles presented by Prof Smith are rather
late.

Anyhow here is one of the url:s which anyone reading the first article of
mine should have hard missing:http://www.public.asu.edu/~mesmith9/

This is the same as the one above.


While I don't go into the details regarding the thermoluminescence dates
which Prof Smith tries to make so much of, he as many naysayers missed the
full report and many scholarly articles strengthen the opinion presented
by
Romeo H Hristov, I can't help finding Prof Smith's views presented here
and
inhttp://www.famsi.org/reports/01024/section02.htm(also in other famsi
reports) a bit odd....
for example from the url above: "The only surviving illustration of the
burials is an engraving shown here in Figure 9, taken from García Payón's
(1941b) brief article."
BUT
that's not true:
It's very very easy to find at least the faksimil edition from 1974 of the
work edited in 1936.....

the title of the first work
García Payón, ZONA ARQUEOLOGICA DE TECAXIC-CALIXTLAHUACA Y LOS
MATLATZINCAS.
edited 1936

(the faksimile copy):
García Payón, ZONA ARQUEOLOGICA DE TECAXIC-CALIXTLAHUACA Y LOS
MATLATZINCAS.
Primera Parte. Edición facsimilar de la de 1936 preparada por M
Edited by México, Biblioteca Enciclopédica del Estado de México (No. 29),
1974

Quote from the URL you just gave us:

"José García Payón failed to adequately publish the results of his
fieldwork at Calixtlahuaca. The most important of his publications are
brief articles on ceramics and burials (García Payón 1941a, b). He
published the first volume of a planned multi-volume report (García
Payón 1936), but this book consists of ethnohistory and general
information about the Toluca Valley, with next to nothing on the
excavations."

Thus, your suggestion that Smith either ignored or was unaware of the
1936 publication is refuted by the very text you refer us to! Who do
you expect to deceive? Or are you deceiving yourself?

Ross Clark

IEJ: if you followed the url mentioned above to the other pages you would
have known that Smith tries to make believe he and his students tried very
hard to find the documents and/or reports from 1930's digging. That seems
very unlikely that he spent so many hours, days and weeks as he tells in one
of the other pages in the url lacking knowledge of the report which been out
since 1936 and also without finding the faksimile edited in 70's. Such poor
research I can't say I can call excellent.
/Inger E



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