Re: Let's get controversial about Barry Fell
- From: Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:12:53 +1200
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:34:39 GMT, David B <tronospamchos@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 07:41:11 GMT, David B <tronospamchos@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I've actually studied quite a bit of the evidence behind the arguments
about climate change recently. The "hockey stick" is very real and very
anomalous, and if some folks hadn't wasted so much time denying its
existence, we'd probably understand a great deal more about the precise
causes of it by now.
There we go again! Is the hockey stick real or is it the result of
cooked up data? If the hockeystick is real, what happens to the
evidence for a Roman warm period, a medieval warm period and a little
ice age? Who knows? Watch this space. :-)
That's not comparing like with like. What's unusual and scary right now
is that the relationship between global surface temperatures and solar
activity has broken down- the historic peak of solar activity was half a
century ago, and indeed we're also right now at a minimum of the
shorter-term solar cycle, but the temperatures within our living
environment at the bottom of the atmosphere aren't responding in the
ways we know they did in the past, both in short-term cycles and longer
fluctuations such as the Maunder Minimum / Little Ice Age. Overall, they
just keep rising faster and faster.
See
http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jul/the-discover-interview-henrik-svensmark/article_view?b_start:int=0&-C=
and then read the book described at http://preview.tinyurl.com/2louch
This is basicly Nobel Prize material.
However, as for Barry Fell, I'm with Tom- if Barry
had just proceeded with a bit more patience, and perhaps concentrated on
making a really sound case for a limited set of inscriptions generated
by a particular culture, he would have gained genuine respect.
Where would you set the limit? <1?
Well, the main point is to be able to build up a coherent picture of the
cultural developments behind the inscriptions, not just to try to
interpret all inscriptions in all scripts in all areas without careful
investigation of the background to each inscription. To build on Barry's
work, a number of researchers now need to co-operate on that
investigation, each concentrating on a limited geographical area or
subset of inscription types.
David B.
Eric Stevens
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