Re: The Origin of the Sea Peoples

On Jul 23, 7:25 pm, Day Brown <daybr...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
this page didnt load... maybe later.http://www.minoanatlantis.com/Origin_Sea_Peoples.html
But ya, this is related to my comments below...http://www.minoanatlantis.com/Minoan_Spain.html
Which come largely from "The Celts", and going back into the late
stone age. This business of building watch towers and hill forts
seemed to come and go several times in history and prehistory.

DNA may provide a clue I've not seen mentioned... namely the outbreak
of disease in these crowded citatadels that make them useless. Which
would explain why they were, time and again, abandoned. The Romans,
if you recall, were famous for their sanitation engineering, and even
they had serious pandemics, and we know the one that took out
Pericles. There also the noted example of the outbreak of the the
plague, when the Mongols were using catapults to throw dead bodies
into a city before having to give up the seige.

Another process that went on, is that as armies approached, peasants
would bury their root crops and flee into the forest. Until
Clausewitz, it was expected that armies would live off the land, but
in this way, and in a scorced earth policy, many armies were destroyed
without the defenders having to lift a sword. It has had a huge effect
on the Northern European gene pool, where the beta males, too cowardly
to fight, fled with their families into the many forests while the
warriors hacked it out with each other, taking most of them out of the
gene pools.

the watch tower system reported in the above website is also seen at
Chaco Canyon. And here- weather, in this case drought, destroyed the
system. Drought in Europe was rare, but the common reliance on wheat &
rye setup a vulnerability to fungi, ergot, during wet conditions, and
we know how devastating that could be. It no doubt also went on in the
bronze age.

The other thing is that this kind of thing didnt lead to a Moses
leading his people. The DNA is far too varied for them all to be the
sons of Abraham or whoever. The "Sea Peoples" were, as the plural
indicated, a diverse group with refugees and the enterprising coming
in from all over hellanback, and leaving when the Pharaoh, or whoever,
threatened to come in and kick ass.

My main quibble is that the history we have is largely *his story*, of
his military prowess; but that was only one of several factors that
affected the gene pool and culture of any given area, be it Spain,
Troy, or the Nile Sea Peoples. Because the scribes had to pander to
the sensibilities of the warrior class, these other factors didnt get
much press.

I dont think the Black Sea cultures, which spread up the river valleys
from the Danube to the Dneistr & Bug, got much press either. They
didnt go in for stonework. It was all timber frame, and all we have
left are the tels and the post stubs found by magnetometers. Herodutus
writes of them being a very contentious lot, a mix of settled agrarian
communities and nomads which was never, so far as we can tell, ever
united into a great empire such as seen in the Levant.

But the Levant didnt have the forests the lower classes could flee
into. The imposition of tyranny was just not possible. What they
prolly had, was what we know the Vikings had later in this riverine
system: a set of independent city states that were all part of a
mercantile, not military, empire. And all the trade from that vast
network flowed south to the Levant past Troy. So, of course, Troy was
a big deal.

But I would be there are DNA markers related to the immune system
that'd help explain this cyclical process.

My point on the stone watchtower systems of the El Argar (ex: Motilla
del Azuer) and the Tholos Nuraghes of Sardinia is that here we have
the identical type of structure using the same construction techniques
being abandoned in Spain while at the same time there is the beginning
of a flowering of these same structures to the point of having some
30,000 of them being built all over Sardinia. My argument regarding
these structures is one of identical style, technique and the
immediate proximity of the timing. This must be more than just a
simple coincidence.

Surely there were other stone watchtower systems built throughout
world history like Chaco Canyon, but those were over 2,000 years
later.

I believe that the fall of the El Argar in Spain precipitated waves of
mass migration to the east in the Mediterranean and they took their
tried and true stone corbelling (Tholos) building techniques with
them. Especially to Sardinia which was most probably the land of the
Shardana first mentioned in the Amarna letters in Egypt in about 1350
B.C.

I agree that the written evidence is skewed to an Egyptian perspective
but we must deal with what exists only and interpret the probabilities
of the truth from it. As the DNA, bone study, and metal/pottery
provenancing evidence builds in the future our interpretation of the
2nd Millennia and late 1st Millennia will be clarified.


W. Sheppard Baird

Author - The Minoan Psychopath
http://www.minoanatlantis.com

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