Re: Krishna´s Dwarka
- From: David <pchristainsen@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:50:03 -0700
On Aug 8, 2:45 am, Daryl Krupa <icycal...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 7, 5:12 pm, David <pchristain...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Just take the archaeology. In the article it says -
"A few years ago, when asked as to how sure he was that this
was Krishna´s Dwarka, Rao had replied, 'only the name board is
missing.'"
Further extract -
The layout of the excavated city, the spread and the location of fort
walls and
bastions match the descriptions mentioned in Harivamsha, a prologue to
Mahabharata.
Harivamsha described the city of Dwarka in minute details. According
to it, the area
of Dwarka was 12 yojnas. It was connected to the mainland by a strip,
which is visible
even now, in low tide. The city excavated is of the same size.
Harivamsha, detailing the security arrangements, says that there were
seals, without
which one could not enter the city. Seals of a particular description
were found on the
seabed. A stone image of Vishnu, chert blades and pottery are all part
of the recovered objects.
Elaborating on the town plan of first Dwarka, Rao´s proposal says,
"There were two fortifica-tion
walls. One in the lower terrace and another in the middle terrace. The
walls which extended over
a length of 4 km on the eastern shore are mostly destroyed by sea
action. The walls of the lower
terrace are of massive, dressed sandstone blocks while that of the
upper terrace are of rubble.
The houses and other public buildings, built of smaller size stones
within the enclosure are all
destroyed and levelled up by the encroachment of the sea. These
structures lie in a depth of 7 to
10 metres, below the present mean sea-level, indicating a rise of 10
metres in sea-level during
the last 3,600 years." The reclamation of land from water-logged
areas, referred to in Mahabharata,
in order to build the city, is also attested by the boulder
foundations over which walls and bastions
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That dfating is not based upon archaeology, but rather on
literary criticism.
It is the estimate of a religious devotee, not a scientist.
The archaeological information is interesting enough, but
its connection with a specific culture at a specific time and
other specific places has not been established beyond
the mind of the august Dr. Rao and those whose interests
he seeks to serve.
The are good reasons nopt to fund further inverstigations
by Dr. Rao.
It is much better to leave the ruins be until someone
who is interested in finding out what they are during and
after investigation, instaead of determining their character
and significance before investigation, as Dr. Rao has done.
Since Dr. Rao has already made his conclusions, there
is no scientific purpose to funding further investigations
by him.
Other than science, there might be reasons of
economic and political and religious and ethnic-pride
development for further investigation, but these can only
serve to degrade the archaeological record as it exists
before such directed research is undertaken.
This complaint of inadequate funding is, therefore,
not a discussion of archaeology, and is therfeore
off-topic in this forum.
Please do not bother to advise us in future of
similar whinging. We are all familiar with similar problems.
- Daryl Krupa- Hide quoted text -
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Consistently, you are reading my concerns incorrectly.
Also, I think you underestimate the importance of Rao's work as it
stands on
its own apart from Indian nationalism.
I recommend -
Krishna's Dwarka:Archeologist S.R. Rao's speech( English mp3)
http://deshgujarat.com/2007/02/21/dwarka-of-krishnaarcheologist-sr-raos-speech-english-mp3/
Submergence of Dwarka (PDF)
http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati/gkcc1.pdf
An ancient harbour at Dwarka: Study based on
the recent underwater explorations
http://www.ias.ac.in/currsci/may102004/1256.pdf
Additional items for further reading are on the deshgujarat website.
.
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