Re: Were Africans Capsa and the Basques of Prehistoric Spain?
- From: Doug Weller <dweller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:51:26 +0100
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 05:54:17 -0000, in sci.archaeology, Marc Washington
wrote:
PART I: Were Africans Capsa and the Basques of Prehistoric Spain?
The Basques are important as they are the oldest surviving indigenous
group in Europe outside of the Lapp of Finland. Furthermore, their
langauge is related to the Lapp and at the same time, Robert
Oppenheimer in 2007 reported research showing that 75% of those of the
British Isles share genes related to the Basques and that they entered
Spain following the Atlantic coast up. Following the Atlantic Coast
down is Africa.
Following the Atlantic coast up doesn't mean from Africa. Follow the
Mediterranean coast and you come to the Atlantic coast which you have to
follow 'up'.
Following the coast down doesn't take you to Africa:
http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publications/AJHG_2001_v68_p1019.pdf
High-Resolution Analysis of Human Y-Chromosome Variation Shows a Sharp
Discontinuity and Limited Gene Flow between Northwestern Africa and
the Iberian Peninsula
Abstract: In the present study we have analyzed 44 Y-chromosome
biallelic polymorphisms in population samples from northwestern (NW)
Africa and the Iberian Peninsula, which allowed us to place each
chromosome unequivocally in a phylogenetic tree based on 1150
polymorphisms. The most striking results are that contemporary NW
African and Iberian populations were found to have originated from
distinctly different patrilineages and that the Strait of Gibraltar
seems to have acted as a strong (although not complete) barrier to
gene flow. In NW African populations, an Upper Paleolithic
colonization that probably had its origin in eastern Africa
contributed 75% of the current gene pool. In comparison, ~78% of
contemporary Iberian Y chromosomes originated in an Upper Paleolithic
expansion from western Asia, along the northern rim of the
Mediterranean basin. Smaller contributions to these gene pools
(constituting 13% of Y chromosomes in NW Africa and 10% of Y
chromosomes in Iberia) came from the Middle East during the Neolithic
and, during subsequent gene flow, from Sub-Saharan to NW Africa.
Finally, bidirectional gene flow across the Strait of Gibraltar has
been detected: the genetic contribution of European Y chromosomes to
the NW African gene pool is estimated at 4%, and NW African
populations may have contributed 7% of Iberian Y chromosomes. The
Islamic rule of Spain, which began in A.D. 711 and lasted almost 8
centuries, left only a minor contribution to the current Iberian
Y-chromosome pool. The high-resolution analysis of the Y chromosome
allows us to separate successive migratory components and to precisely
quantify each historical layer.
Oppenheimer calls the Basque country 'an ice age refuge'. Where does he
say that the Basques come from Africa?
Is the foregoing a sign of a white peoples long in
Spain or of an originally African people with whom they mixed and
carried on language and traditions from? The term "Capsa" and its
related terms, is outlined and described a half-page down from here.
http://www.beforebc.de/all_europe/05-09-000-12.html
Please use the email at the web-page bottom with your suggestions or
advice as your comments are important and it's easier save them that
way. Thank you.
HOME PAGE: http://www.beforebc.de/AboutAuthorAndAfricanGoldenAge.html
www.BeforeBC.de
PART II: HARMONIZED GEOCHRONOLOGICAL CAPSA TERMINOLOGY
[A] Introduction: new, unified terminology
...1) Note
...2) Phase One: Capsa
...3) Phase Two: Capsamoc
...4) Phase Three: Capsamochal
[B] Evidence of ancient world start in East Africa
...1) Bible, Genesis 10
...2) Cavalli-Sforza Footnote:
[A] INTRODUCTION: Three New words: I think there is schizphrenia in
the terming of an ancient peoples who spread in a geotemporal fashion:
First in Africa (phase I: Africans - see footnote) And from there to
the Mediterranean and Middle East (Asia, Near East) as Canaanites,
Semites, Phoenicians, Anatolians (pre-Western Anatolians according to
Mellart were Africans from two origins: the Steppes and Africa). This
confusion and schizophrenia can be resolved and harmonized three new
terms built on one another to capture the ethnic and geochronological
development of the relevant history as it emerged from East Africa.
First of all, though, you SHOULD SEE the web page at the sentence-end
as it identifies through ancient statuary that the said peoples were
African and that while the term Asian (etc.) is used, the people
referred to are of African phenotype:
http://www.beforebc.de/all_europe/700_mediterranean/02-16-700-00-05.html
...1) NOTE: These terms don't apply to Capsa people once interaction
began with any particular Capsa with whites (who trace ancestry to the
Steppes) as when interacting with whites, a whole new dynamic is
entered and history goes in a different direction.
...2) PHASE ONE: CAPSA. The following people (see Genesis 10 below and
Cavalli-Sforza footnote) arose from East Africa. 1) Canaanites and 2)
Phoenicians are the one-in-the-same and also referred to as 3)
Semites. Semites arose from East Africa so are 4) African. At the same
time, Semites were referred to as 5) Asians. So, the five terms are
synonymous (in this context: eg. Tanzaninians of today are African but
certainly not Semites or Asians. Only in the ancient context the
relationships hold).
Canaanite: C
Africans: A
Phoenicians: p
Semites: S
Asians: A
///// Unified term: "Capsa" //////
...3) PHASE TWO: CAPSAMOC. From phase one, the Phoenicians (Capsa
peoples) settled North Africa in, among other places, Carthage and
Mauritania. This created the proto population that would become the
Moors. And that population continued Northward to become the Celts who
spanned the Bronze and Iron Age. Organically, genetically, they are
Moors and Celts who are Capsa and became "Capsamoc":
Marc's quoted Robert Oppenheimer, now he's ignored him.
http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=7817
"Given the distribution of Celtic languages in southwest Europe, it is
most likely that they were spread by a wave of agriculturalists who
dispersed 7,000 years ago from Anatolia, travelling along the north coast
of the Mediterranean to Italy, France, Spain and then up the Atlantic
coast to the British Isles. There is a dated archaeological trail for
this. My genetic analysis shows exact counterparts for this trail both in
the male Y chromosome and the maternally transmitted mitochondrial DNA
right up to Cornwall, Wales, Ireland and the English south coast."
Moors: MO
Celts: C
///// Unified term: "Capsamoc" //////
...4) PHASE 3: CAPSAMOCHAL: The Celts from phase two continued
northwestward becoming the Halstaat of Gaul (Germany, France, Italy).
In Germany as Halstaat, they went on to introduce iron-making and
excelled even more in fine art. With these cultural attributes, they
migrated onwards to become known as the La Tene in Scandinavia as
their artistic skills evolved far beyond those skills in Gaul though
they were descendents of those from Gaul. They were Casapmoc people
and became the Capsamochal.
Halstaat: HA
La Tene: L
///// Unified term: "Capsamochal" //////
[B] EVIDENCE OF FOUNDERS OF ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS BEGINNING WITH HAM
IN AFRICA AND SPREADING TO MESOPOTAMIA. GENETICS SHOWS MESOLITHIC
SPREAD TO MEDITERRANEAN AND CENTRAL EUROPE.
...1) The Bible and speaks to the unity of the people as one large
extended family who established much of the ancient world and names
many of its renowed cities:
Even more fantasy. He's wrong on the linguistic issues, the
archaeological issues, the genetic issues, so no wonder he resorts to
this.
--
NOAH'S GENERATIONS, GENESIS 10: 6 to 11. THE SONS OF HAM AND THE BIRTH
OF NIMROD
6: And the sons of Ham: Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan.
7: And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah,
and Sabtechas. And the son of Radmah; Sheba and Dedan.
8. And Cush begat Nimrod; he began to be a mighty one in the earth.
9. He was a mighty hunter before the lord; wherefore it is said, Even
as Nimrod, the mighty hunter before the Lord.
10. And the beginning of his Kingdom was Babel, and Erech, in the Land
of Shinar.
11. Out of that land went forth Assur, and builded Ninevah, and the
city of Rehoboth, and Calah.
...2) FOOTNOTE: We suggest that a population within this subclade of the
African YAP M145/M203/PN2 cluster expanded into the southern and
eastern Mediterranean at the end of the Pleistocene. These lineages
then would have been then from the Middle East into southern Europe
(and to an extent northern India and Pakistan) by farmers during the
Neolithic expansion..." P. A. Underhill, C. Passarino, A. Lin, P. Shen,
M. Mirazon, Lahr, R. A. Foley, P. J. Oefner, L. L. Cavalli-Sforza, The
Phylogeography of Y chromosome binary haplotypes and the origin of
modern populations, Ann Hum Genet 65, pp. 43 - 62, 2001.
Marc Washington
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