Re: Pseudoarchaeology in Australia


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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 03:00:28 -0700, Jack
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The tragedy of all of this stuff is that
if something genuine is found
it will be immediately dismissed as yet
another fake.

The tragedy is, that once the artefact is
removed from it's context, it can
be nearly impossible to proove that it is
not only genuine, but was
deposited at a specific point in time.

As an example, there are quite a lot of
north American stone tools in local
collections in northern Germany. Some can
be traced to be donations of
travellers/seamen having visited NA. But a
lot of them are without
identifiable background or have been
picked up from the top soil. A few
cases can be shown to have been collected
in NA, brought to Germany, and
thrown in the garbage when the original
collector died. The garbage was
dumped on the fields, where the tools were
picked up up years later.

Any tools hypothetically brought over the
ocean by NA visitors in
pre-Columbian times would be lost among
the multitude of stuff brought back
later, only artefacts from controlled
excavations in undisturbed contexts
could proove an earlier contact. There are
none AFAIK.

Compared with Norse finds in NA, NA finds
in northern Germany exist in far
greater numbers. What does that say about
pre-columbian NAs travelling to
northern Germany? Nothing.

So the question is not really wether some
artefacts are genuine or not, but
at what time they were deposited.

have fun

Uwe Mueller


(There's something wrong with my mouse.)

With the advent of the digital camera the
recording of images is easier, and
archaeologists might get some benefit
visiting the amateur photogroup pages for
some imbedded information.

At the moment I am photo-recording the
alleyways and mundane images of the central
city area here (things no-one would normally
take pictures of) and these images may be of
interest 100 years hence. Sometimes the
background in the typical grinning-people
photo is of great interest.




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