Re: The Great Deluge

On Sep 4, 6:51 am, Matt Giwer <jul...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
rick_so...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Sep 4, 4:32 am, Matt Giwer <jul...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
rick_so...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
http://s2.supload.com/free/stonefrieze100dpi.jpg/view/
This Mayan rock carving shows what happened.
This was no mere torrential downpour. The floodgates of heaven burst
open with such force that erosion washed everything into the sea.
Temples crumbled and the old civilization was lost.
If you examine this photograph, you see the extent of this cataclysm.
http://s2.supload.com/free/sacrock.jpg/view/
But notice how worn the rock is now on the upper surface. This
happened a very very long time ago.
And these stones, look at the immense size, in foreground and
background, both show signs of being worked by human hands,
http://s2.supload.com/free/vd1_md.jpg/view/
We have not even begin to grasp the scope of this great civilization
which worked with stones weighing in excess of 440 tons.
And left giant ruins, like these now under 100 feet of water off the
coast of Japan.
http://s2.supload.com/free/yonaguni_572.jpg/view/
And ruins off Bimini and Cuba, including huge walls, with giant
stones,
http://s2.supload.com/free/bim2_6.jpg/view/
and step pyramids, some of which are now under 2,100 feet of water.
http://www.morien-institute.org/adclarge4.html#9
And of course the recent find off Andros island part of the Bahamas,
where a three tiered platform of huge rock, 400 meters by 50 meters,
was discovered. Since this discovery is in 10 feet of water, it must
have been at some altitude before the great deluge.
http://www.altarcheologie.nl/underwater_ruins/andros/andros_platform_...
It may be an early example of step pyramid construction by the um pre
flood giants of Bolivia.
It is still bull***. You are running with "what else can explain it?" which is
a logical fallacy. It is up to you to show there was in fact such a flood by
finding signs of all the indicators of such a flood every place but there are
none. You are also have to show things which were not washed into the sea found
if valleys blocking th way.
You also have to explain how so many things which predate your magic flood are
still around.
Well right now I am leaning towards, there was a flood, but it was
into the lowlands, and it raised the ocean level.
It raised lake levels too, and at the same time there were ice ages,
and then when the ice melted, more floods.

Assume the entire atmosphere is totally saturated with water, holding as much
as possible all the way from sea level to the edge of the atmosphere. Now assume
it all rains out at exactly the same time. How much water falls?

Enough to cover the surface of the earth to a depth of one inch. The ocean
level rises 1.3 inches after the water runs off of the land. The atmosphere can
hold no more water than that.

This is reality.

So I am not saying that there was one flood, where all land was
covered by water.

I am saying there were several, but probably during one of them,
people set off from Peru and ended up in Asia, and perhaps landed on
Ararat as the legend has it.
What I think happens, is that we take on water from space, in the form
of snowballs, and that has been established by NASA, but the extent to
which that happens sometimes, is extreme.

They are not established and are still controversial. HOWEVER they would enter
the atmosphere and immediately turn into steam. This heats the atmosphere. There
is no credible way to give this as a cause without turning all the atmosphere
into superheated steam.


Well apparently they break up before they hot the atmosphere. The
smaller ones disintegrate in the magnetic field.
But, there are no Van Allen belts at the poles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_Belts

Exploding as it enters the atmosphere but still adding moisture to the
atmosphere.
So it just piles up at the poles as snow, and cools the earth, and
that continues day in and day out until it cools the earth
sufficiently to start snowing everywhere.
And it just doesn't stop until we have gone through those areas of
space where it is thick with the stuff.

Hence the data which shows wild rises and falls of lake levels in
Bolivia.

You see the thing is, that the oceans are only 180 million years old.
And so that can mean two things. There is a conveyor belt subducting
the rock as it is formed at the rifts in the oceans, or the earth is
expanding and that is new rock, and there were no oceans, just shallow
seas before 180 million years.
And if that is the case, then allll that water arrived here in the
last 180 million years.
And that is a whole lot of water.
If there was some evidence, that the ocean floor was older than 180
million years, but there isn't.
In fact it is linear, from the rifts to the shores of the continents.
Completely linear. So much so, that if you remove the rock, by age,
the earth shrinks and the continents fit together.
Without wandering around as previously prescribed.
They fit together perfectly.

All the evidence seems to lead to a lot of water coming from space on
occasion, causing floods and cataclysm of biblical proportion.

Its difficult to explain a city under 2,100 feet of water.

Perhaps it sank a bit, but keep in mind the continents are supposed to
be going up during this time as the ice sheets melted.

You still have a net gain of a whole lot of water.

So that it can rain and rain and rain, and then start to snow and
freeze and keep snowing until the ice sheets above the continents are
2 miles thick.
That weight causes them to sink, the water rises, and things die.

It is going to take years before enough heat is lost and the steam can start
condensing.

Well ice ages last a long long time, and there might even be a build
up to it of some sort. Maybe you get the greenhouse effect first, then
a tropical effect as it starts to rain, and then a winter effect as it
starts to cool the earth.


Here is an interesting link to some mysterious places, at google
earth. It mentions Peru and a few other places.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYPm_Bj3oDU&mode=related&search=

I merely point out any such flood is impossible.

Well tell that to the pre-flood giants of Bolivia whose city is off
the coast of Cuba, 2,100 feet below sea level.

Sure people say oh well it just sank.

Thats science fiction. Things just don't sink 2,100 feet. 7 square km
of earth, does not just sink 2,100 feet just like that in a couple
hundred years.

There is nowhere for it to sink to.
Thats rock under there for 38 to 40 km.

Solid rock.

Then you have your Moho discontinuity, where it is twice as hard as
granite, then you have your magma.

So there is no mud sink holes of that sort.
Now maybe it sunk a bit slowly, because of tectonics.

But the fastest possible rate, pegs it at 50,000 years old. Thats the
fastest possible. Like a landslide into the sea.

So maybe it sank some, and the ocean flooded some.

You see if it rains, water goes to the sea.

If it rains a lot, a lot of water goes to the sea. But it still floods
and takes things with it, into the sea.

So there can be a world wide flood, it just comes from the sky, and
floods the earth, and rushes into the sea.
The sea doesn't have to raise up and cover the earth.


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