Re: Bad Archaeology

On Sep 7, 6:27 am, "J.LyonLayden" <JosephLay...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 7, 4:43 am, Eric Stevens <eric.stev...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 04:47:14 -0000, "J.LyonLayden"

<JosephLay...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 6, 8:35 pm, Eric Stevens <eric.stev...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:34:45 -0500, Tom McDonald

Even with agriculture you are limited by area of agricultural land
within the range set by the perishability of your food and the means
to transport it.

Large towns and cities are absolutely dependent on transport.

Eric Stevens

I'm thinking I have to mostly stick to fishing villages with 50-60
people for the sedentary clans.
I'm wondering if I can have them w/ fishing poles. We know they fished
but we don't know how.
Oldest stone hooks are 20,000...but was bone used before that date?

How about nets and spears?

We know maori used nets thousands of feet long. Why should not our
primitive ancestors?

Excellent thanks.
But what about bone hooks? Is it plausible?

For the first sentence of a story something like:

"Half a million years ago, by a river near a bay, the sidhe sat with
his back to a luan tree, casting his fishing line into the water."

It kind of gives a rustic, hobbit-like mood.

Like Huck Finn.

I see that Tom McDonald answered you in some detail. In the cultures
I'm familiar with, the use of hooks for fishing is something you do
for special applications. Your sidhe wouldn't be using a hook 'n rod
to feed his family (but like Huck Finn, maybe the recreation is as
important as the meal).

For fish as a staple food supply, all the Polynesians and
Micronesians, and fish-eating NDNs, would make traps. Baskets were
common in North America, but in both the Pacific Ocean and North
America, even more common was to make fishing weirs out of stone. Very
simple technology, has the dual advantage of catching lots of fish,
and keeping them alive until needed. Still used in many places.

Nets of course are probably the most common after traps. In Polynesia,
inshore fisherman would use hooks especially to catch octopus (he'e);
but the hook only catches one at a time (& the octopus has to be
teased into dancing for the cowry lure). At sea, Polynesians used (&
still use) multi-hook long-lines not dissimilar to long-line
commercial fishing today, but they were seafarers, which doesn't seem
to match your story so far.

.

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