Re: Sundaland

On Sep 9, 7:14 pm, "J.LyonLayden" <JosephLay...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 9, 5:14 pm, Doug Weller <dwel...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:





On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:31:08 -0000, in sci.archaeology, J.LyonLayden
wrote:

What you fail to realize in your arguement is that the places that
still exist were MOUNTAINTOPS.
Why would anyone live on a mountaintop when the lower areas are as
fertile and abundant as Hawaii?

Mountaintops? I've seen figures for the sea level rise between 60 to 130
meters max. So how do you get mountain tops? These are very livable
areas and would have been then also.

I further propose that the periods in which you actually find any
fossils at all on Java mark the times when the waterlevel temporarilly
rose and the inhabitants of Sundaland have to seek higher ground?
There are multi-thousand year gaps on java wherein we don't find
fossils, which mark the time when the water levels were low.

Imagine Mt. Toba destoying an entire proto-civilization when the water
levels are low. Then the sea levels rise again.

Sure if you find the exact spot and do some under water drilling
through slag and magma, you might find a trace.

As you said yourself, false starts can happen all the time in history.

Soloensis on Java (a Sundaland Mountaintop)

Java has a population of 124 million. It is not a mountaintop. There is no
reason people wouldn't have wanted to live there when the sea level was
between 60 and 130 meters lower.

had a different but

advanced technology to Hss at 27,000-50,000 before present, and it got
developed SOMEWHERE.

Ngdong balls are more advanced than Mousterian implements, and it has
already been surmised that they depended on bamboo for the
construction of much of their tech. For all you know they could have
had swiss family robinson bamboo pipe running water.

(Whitmore, 1984). The reduction of this forest forms a major focus of
discussion in this book.

In other words, some of it still exists. Any civilization there should
have left evidence on those parts that still exist, and should have been
able to move to those areas as other parts were covered by rising sea
levels.

Here is an animated picture showing its extent before and after the sea
rose to cover part of it:http://www.grahamhan***.com/images/underworld/Sundaland.gif
As you can see, it isn't just a small part that is left.
(And I don't mind linking to Graham Han***'s site for this, and after
all, his site has a link to mine!).
Doug
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Also, any sedentary culture before agriculture would have to be
sustained by fishing. The Jomon come to mind, whose origins are not
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Err...meaning that a non-agriculturaL sedentary village would be on
the coast, which in Sundaland's case is now under water.

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