Re: How it is done
- From: hagen <dan5mark@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:18:41 -0800 (PST)
On Feb 23, 9:30 pm, hagen <dan5m...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 22, 11:41 pm, grapheus <graph...@xxxxxxx> wrote:My advise is this one: Don't be influenced, what is TRUTH or NOT in
On Feb 22, 5:03 pm, hagen <dan5m...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 22, 2:47 pm, grapheus <graph...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 21, 10:12 pm, hagen <dan5m...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 21, 7:53 pm, hagen <dan5m...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Here you have an example on how it is done by the catagori of popular
science magazines:
Dear Ole Hagen, Thank for your letter.
I am sorry to say that we do not accept original scientific work for
publication in XXX. We are a popular science magazine, not an academic
journal, and we do not have the expert referees needed to asses
original research of theories ...
They might even be acting in good faith, but the fact is, that they
are part in the painful obstruction of a sensational (picture lottery)
break-through to thePhaistosdisc riddle.
Why should you care? Anyway: Who is a clever boy then?
http://web.gvdnet.dk/GVD002393/gnomonic.htm
Ole Hagen
If you as an editor of a good standing periodical see this page and
take interest in my discovery, then please contact me for a solitary
publication of my proposal for an alternative alphabetic notation.
This would be a helpful introduction for everyone, who wants to study
those hieroglyphs, not as syllables, but as quantities, and a great
support for me. A text should be reduced to a brief editorial comment.
- This would be perfection. -
... I thus suggest that you send the details of your work to a peer-
reviewed specialist journal which represents the appropriate
discipline...(1998). I wish you good luck with your research .-(.
Another one:
Im Auftrag von Herrn Professor X schicke ich Ihnen hiermit Ihr
Manuskript uber den Diskus vonPhaistoswieder zuruck. Der Gnomon ist
eine Rezensionszeitschrift, die daruber hinaus keine weiteren
Publikationen veroffentlicht. Leider kann ich Ihnen auch anderes Organ
dafur empfehlen (1989).
This ping-pong has now lasted for 22 years. The announcement of the
happy event of decipherment has been delayed that long!
Ping-pong goes on:
Your letter dated December 12th and the accompanying manuscript on the
Phaistosdisc arrived today and I am grateful for your interest in
this journal. I regret, however, that I cannot publish your article in
XXX. While the disc and its problems are linguistic rather than
archaeological ... Consequently, I am unable to consider your article,
what ever its merits .. submit it for publication in a more
appropriate journal ... best wishes for your continuing research ....
This standardized torture went on during one-hundred sendings of my
manuscript, before I was done up.
These were the scheme for rejections.
hagen
Dear Ole,
I don't understand what you are complaining about.
Because you DID publish a book in 2001, at author's cost. It was a
courageous move, that I greet and respect. This book has been bought
and read by many specialists, including myself, and I don't regret my
purchase, because there are in it very interesting remarks... But NONE
of those specialists has been convinced by your theory. As for myself,
many times I told you why. So, you cannot now act as if this book had
been "ignored", because it has not been so : lately, for instance, I
cited a French archaeological journal which has mentioned it. But,
alas for you, adding that your theory was almost surely false... In
such circumstances, why are you wondering that no "reasonable" editor
has accepted to publish an article or another book on the same theory,
that you are the only one to believe in, thanks to a surprising
tendency to self-delusion ? Dit it never dome to your mind that you
could be wrong ? That thePhaistosDisk was NOT Cretan and that it was
NOT a Calendar ?...
Think about that.
Best regards
grapheus
If you as an editor of a good standing periodical see this page and
take interest in my discovery, then please contact me for a solitary
publication of my proposal for an alternative alphabetic notation.
This would be a helpful introduction for everyone, who wants to study
those hieroglyphs, not as syllables, but as quantities, and a great
support for me. A text should be reduced to a brief editorial
comment.
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Again I must remind you about this professor X from Edinburgh, who was
very resistent in his critsism of Ventris', in his view hypothetical,
decipherment of Greek from linear B.
His name was A.J.Beattie, and his paper has been published in the JHS
1956.
And he was right!, because in a
mathematical sense all such unconfirmed systems remain hypothetical,
NO, he was WRONG, because he was completely IGNORING the Calculus of
Probabilities !.. When one find a Greek tomb in Sicily, he cannot say
that Sicily was, at that time, colonized by Greeks. But when he finds
tens of Greek tombs, of which date correspond to the same period, he
may FIRMLY state that there was a Greek colony in Sicily during this
period. In the same way, when one find in thePhaistosDisk a Proto-
Ionic text, he cannot say : "the Disk is a Proto-Ionian artifact". But
when ALL the tens of CONSEQUENCES of this discovery are VERIFIED, then
it becomes obvious that the Disk has been made by Proto-Ionians... In
a similar way, when one says "I've found several arguments showing
that the Disk is a Minoan Calendar", but when it is proved that these
arguments are without value (for instance, your so-called "proof"
concerning the obliterated sign in A8, which CANNOT be Sign n° 36 --
or that the clay is not of Cretan origin -- or etc.), there is little
doubt that this theory is wrong.
but he thereby brought about the wrong impression, that Ventris' grid
was without any value.
NO. A.J. Beattie just made a fool of himself by not understanding what
PROBABILITY is !
Regards
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My advise is this one: Don't be influenced, what is TRUTH or NOT in
this serious matter, from the lonly argumentation of the anonymous M.
Grapheus (who he is representing, I never know). Don't even judge it
from my persistent promotion in those three newsgroups. And especially
don't feel the pressure of the lack of responses from the
establishment, the members are typically taught to act like gregarious
creatures by fear of loosing position.
JUDGE FOR YOURSELF !!!
Whether it has not been emphazised with the mark of boots, that the
consequence of my stems is a CALENDAR.http://web.gvdnet.dk/GVD002393/step.htm
Whether this ancient annual ledger is an old HYMN at the same time, or
if it is not.http://web.gvdnet.dk/GVD002393/gnomonic.htm
Regards
Ole Hagen- Hide quoted text -
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this serious matter, from the lonly argumentation of the anonymous M.
Grapheus (who he is representing, I never know). Don't even judge it
from my persistent promotion in those three newsgroups. And
especially
don't feel the pressure of the lack of responses from the
establishment, the members are typically taught to act like
gregarious
creatures by fear of loosing position.
JUDGE FOR YOURSELF !!!
Whether it has not been emphazised with the mark of boots, that the
consequence of my stems is a CALENDAR.http://web.gvdnet.dk/GVD002393/
step.htm
Whether this ancient annual ledger is an old HYMN at the same time,
or
if it is not.http://web.gvdnet.dk/GVD002393/gnomonic.htm
Did I forgot to mention that I am talking PHAISTOS DISC? ; ' )
Regards
Ole Hagen-
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