Re: The origin of war: New 14C dates from ancient Mexico



David wrote:
On Apr 27, 8:24 pm, Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
David wrote:
Kent V. Flannery, and Joyce Marcus
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/pnas;100/20/11801
"New 14C dates from archaeological sites in Oaxaca,
Mexico, support R. C. Kelly's observation that
intervillage raiding may begin as soon as a region
has segmentary societies."
How do you think the current work at Monte Alban (as in
"happening right now") by Gary Feinman of the Field Museum
relates to the history of warfare in the Valley of Oaxaca?

Since I don't have access to his email newletter,

http://www.fieldmuseum.org/expeditions/gary7_expeditions/emails.html

Or:

http://tinyurl.com/3t5f8k

nnthere might be
a clue in his publication -

2007 The Last Quarter Century of Archaeological Research in the
Central Valleys of Oaxaca. Mexicon 29:3-15.

However, since he was a teacher of yours, you are probably right
on top of the latest information. Do you mind sharing what you
know?

I have only kept up with his work via his email newsletters from the field. You can read this year's dispatches so far at:

http://fm4.fieldmuseum.org/expedition/1027/dispatches_list.jsp

Or:

http://tinyurl.com/5o8y64

These are the subjects of the archived e-mail dispatches from Gary for this season:

1. The Tenth Year of Excavation at El Palmillo
2. Ready To Begin
3. Early Findings, Challenges, and Omens (?)
4. Life's Routines, Lunch in the Field, and a Postscript
5. Red Arrows, Rain, and Elaborate Architecture

This is a link to the Oaxaca expedition page from the Field Museum, which contains the above dispatches, and quite a bit more:

http://www.fieldmuseum.org/expeditions/gary7_expeditions/about.html

Or:

http://tinyurl.com/5934n4

I found the videos about the field work fascinating, as they deal with dirt archaeology. (For some reason, I couldn't get them to play in Firefox, even when I gave fieldmuseum.org full NoScript permissions; so I had to watch them in IE7.)

(BTW, do you know how 'Oaxaca' is pronounced? Just curious.)

The word is pronounced on the Zapotec Expedition Video with
tour guide Gary Feinman -

http://www.fieldmuseum.org/ancientamericas/rulers_9.asp

What do you know about Kent Flannery and his work in Mesoamerica?

http://archaeology.about.com/library/glossary/bldef_flannerykv.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Flannery

Monte Albán
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Alb%C3%A1n

"The investigation of the periods preceding Monte Albán’s founding was
a major focus of the Prehistory and Human Ecology Project started
by Kent Flannery of the University of Michigan in the late 1960s..."

d.c.



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