Re: The Paisley Caves

On Nov 6, 10:50 am, g-hor...@xxxxxxx (G Horvat) wrote:
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:29:11 -0800 (PST), Lee Olsen

<paleoc...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Have you compared the geological and other information from Paisley
Cave to Dietz Basin? If so, anything to report?


Geoarchaeological Context of Clovis and Western Stemmed Tradition
Sites in Dietz Basin, Lake County, Oregon
Ariane O. Pinson*

In spite of some arguments about definitions, i.e., lake vs dry or
“pre-Archaic-lake-marsh” or
"Wet meadow environment" Willig and Pinson both agree on this: "During
the time of the Clovis and later Early Archaic occupations,....(Pinson
2008). Nor is there anything under any of the Clovis sites anywhere in
the Basin, as would be expected somewhere if the Pasiley evidence was

Thousands of artifacts from both caves and surface finds have been
compared. What you find on the surface is what you find in the caves.
As the lakes, that did have water in them shrank, well-dated artifacts
are found along the shores, the younger ones being found closer in
toward the center as the lakes got smaller. Willig calls this
horizontal stratigraphy. The best example of this is found just east
of Steens Mountain,

As far as the paper you cited, even though Willig did say "lake" a few
times, she usually included "or marsh" also, so she was not sure as
Pinson tried to imply.

Pinson is wrong about “Clovis foragers may have been drawn to
the Dietz locality not by its biotic productivity but because of its
proximity to the
Horse Mountain obsidian source," Five km is a longways to haul rock
"cobbles" just to do some chipping on a nearly dry lakebed. Why not
sit near a spring or creek right on Horse Mt. and chip, just as later
people did?