Re: Hooked 'X' Runes and where they have been found.



On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:29:19 +0000, Doug Weller
<dweller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:32:34 +1300, in sci.archaeology, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:51:53 +0000, Doug Weller
<dweller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:54:23 +1300, in sci.archaeology, Eric Stevens
wrote:


The Hooked X was found on the Kensington Runestone.
It was found on the Spirit Pond Runestone (the Mapstone).
It was found on the Narragansett, Rhode Island inscription stone
It has been found, with Niven's help, on an ancient Astrolabe held at
Oxford University dated c. 1350-1400 AD.
It has been found on the sigla of Christopher Columbus.
And (drum roll please) it was found in Rosslyn Chapel.

Which is enough to make me a bit dubious that it is actually the same
thing each time (in meaning, that is).


The letter 'A' has been found on the American Declarartion of
Independence.
It is found in Mrs Beeton's Cookery Book.
It is found in the name of one of the Internet's largest search
engines.
It is found on the dial of my watch.
It is found on a document at the South Pole.

I'm not at all dubious that it is actually the same thing each time
(in meaning, that is).

The difference between the letter 'A' and the hooked 'X' is that we
know what meaning is attributed to the 'A' but are still guessing as
to the exact significance of the hooked 'X' (although there are one or
two intriguing suggestions).

If you aren't dubious, it's because (I hope) you see a clear common
context, eg they are all part of English texts.

What is the common context of the Hooked X's?

At this stage, I don't really know. You have to realise that the
'hooked X' was first identified on on one of the Spirit Pond rune
stones and used to help establish it as a fake (now where have I heard
of that before?). Some years later the 'hooked X' was identified by
Scott Wolter in the course of closely photographing the Kensington
rune stone.

Scott Wolter then set off in a search for other examples of the
'hooked X' and found it in at least one example of the signature of
Christopher Columbus! I don't know when it was identified on the
Narragansett inscription stone, or the astrolab or Rosslyn chapel.

This seems to me to be sufficient to establish the 'hooked X' as a
real character but on the basis of the little that I know it gives no
clue as to its meaning. We don't even know if any of the various
examples are using it for something than its original purpose.



Eric Stevens
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