Re: Brew your own recession beer like the ancients
- From: Whiskers <catwheezel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:04:11 +0100
On 2009-04-23, Matt Giwer <jull43@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Jack Linthicum wrote:
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I have no problem with stomping and villages and large vintners having their
own stomping structures. I do have a problem with those existing back when the
first wines have been "found" or at least highly suspected.
The problem with any crushing method is a water tight container is needed.
Stomachs and such should have been available but I am unaware of any
information on how long they would last if used for making wine. They would
have to be crushed while inside. Once there is crushing the liquid has to be
collected in something that will not leak. OK, crush in gourds and pour into
bladders. It is doable. But that lead us to inventing pottery to improve wine
making. Facetious of course but if beer is in the running for causing fixed
settlements certainly wine can get credit for pottery.
[...]
Traditional grape treading takes place in very large shallow vats, usually
built of masonry or timber although some (I've heard) are carved out of
exposed bedrock. These are described as 'cement'
<http://www.quintadonoval.com/harvest/en/day4_eng.htm> (scroll down to
near the end of the page and heading "The Lagares"; there's a photo at the
bottom of the page). No ceramics there. Once trodden, the liquid can be
transferred to wooden containers (think barrel, although some are huge).
No ceramics there either. This is stone-age technology still in use
today.
Ceramics may be convenient for distribution or storage, but they are not
/required/ and I can't see that making wine (or beer) would drive the
invention of pottery. Barrels and skins are perfectly adequate for
storage and distribution - and it's notable that whereas the use of large
ceramic jars ceased long ago as a normal method for distributing any
liquids, wooden barrels are still in use even though we also have access
to aluminium and plastics which have many practical advantages.
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