Re: Jesus Christ `

From: Jake Mitchum (jakemitchum_at_able.com)
Date: 06/22/04


Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 04:06:35 GMT


"Greg Campbell" <nospam@null.net> wrote in message
news:mZKBc.6791$5t2.994@fed1read01...
> Jake Mitchum wrote:
>
> > Well, I can certainly see you're set in your ways. No point in
discussing
> > further as I see you have made up your mind. You need prayers and I
hope
> > there is someone looking out for you.....
> >
> > Just keep in mind that, should you ever change your mind while you're
alive,
> > you still have a chance. If not, then eternity certainly won't be
pleasant.
> >
> > -Jake Mitchum
>
> Assuming you're not a gigantic troll, I've got to ask one thing:
> Would you subject your own child to eternal torture? Yes, or no.

If such a child was in fact sentenced to Hell, would I even know it if I
were in Heaven? Like I was explaining to Karl, there's going to be no pain
of any kind in Heaven, so this may be handled by erasing that person from
your memories, etc. As a human being, I just can't conceive how it will be
done, no one can. I don't think the memory would be erased, but that is a
possibility. Of course, it may be that we will be aware of all who are
there and not and simply accept it. Remember, we will be quite a different
kind of being as a spirit as the Bible says.

> (Assuming you asnwered 'no'.) Why would you worship a god-thing that
> would do the same? Think about it ... eternal pain and suffering. All
> the acts of Hitler, Vlad, and Stalin - indeed, all the 'sins' of
> humanity - put together don't equal the insane brutality of subjecting
> just one individual to the hell you seem so fascinated with. Face it,
> the god you worship is a sick, sadistic monster, nothing more. What
> does that say about you?

Now you're showing sarcasm and I of course disagree. Keep in mind that
there will be a time when Satan and all of his followers are eliminated from
existence totally, so eternal suffering won't last forever, evil will simply
be gone. Like I was telling someone else, you have been taught the Word.
Whether you choose to believe it or not is totally up to you. If you do,
and you accept God and try your best to live as he indicates, your reward
will be eternal life. If not, you suffer the consequences by being denied
entrance to Heaven and becoming a resident of Hell. I'm not saying this, it
has been written. You can criticize me all you want or make excuses, but I
won't be judging you; that's up to someone much more qualified than I.

Actually, I'm not all that perturbed by the obvious lack of believers I find
here. Christ showed everything he had and people still didn't believe, so
this attitude is to be expected. Yet God, unlike myself if I were in his
place, continues to show great patience and an interest in the beings he
created. Eventually though, that patience will end and we will all witness
the final results.

>
> -Greg, with appologies to all for the OT noise.
>



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