Re: Jesus Christ `

From: LP (whirl_pool_at_nospam.hotmail.com)
Date: 06/23/04


Date: 22 Jun 2004 19:59:44 -0500

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 04:06:35 GMT, "Jake Mitchum"
<jakemitchum@able.com> wrote:

>
>"Greg Campbell" <nospam@null.net> wrote in message
>news:mZKBc.6791$5t2.994@fed1read01...
>> Jake Mitchum wrote:
>>
>> > Well, I can certainly see you're set in your ways. No point in
>discussing
>> > further as I see you have made up your mind. You need prayers and I
>hope
>> > there is someone looking out for you.....
>> >
>> > Just keep in mind that, should you ever change your mind while you're
>alive,
>> > you still have a chance. If not, then eternity certainly won't be
>pleasant.
>> >
>> > -Jake Mitchum
>>
>> Assuming you're not a gigantic troll, I've got to ask one thing:
>> Would you subject your own child to eternal torture? Yes, or no.
>
>If such a child was in fact sentenced to Hell, would I even know it if I
>were in Heaven?
>Like I was explaining to Karl, there's going to be no pain
>of any kind in Heaven, so this may be handled by erasing that person from
>your memories, etc.

In other words..
Ignorance is bliss.

>As a human being, I just can't conceive how it will be
>done, no one can. I don't think the memory would be erased, but that is a
>possibility. Of course, it may be that we will be aware of all who are
>there and not and simply accept it. Remember, we will be quite a different
>kind of being as a spirit as the Bible says.
>
>> (Assuming you asnwered 'no'.) Why would you worship a god-thing that
>> would do the same? Think about it ... eternal pain and suffering. All
>> the acts of Hitler, Vlad, and Stalin - indeed, all the 'sins' of
>> humanity - put together don't equal the insane brutality of subjecting
>> just one individual to the hell you seem so fascinated with. Face it,
>> the god you worship is a sick, sadistic monster, nothing more. What
>> does that say about you?
>
>Now you're showing sarcasm and I of course disagree. Keep in mind that
>there will be a time when Satan and all of his followers are eliminated from
>existence totally, so eternal suffering won't last forever, evil will simply
>be gone. Like I was telling someone else, you have been taught the Word.
>Whether you choose to believe it or not is totally up to you.

I have been taught the word, and that word is "reason".
A human beings greatest asset is his ability to reason.
That science cherishes reason is what makes science so wonderful,
That religion circumvents reason is what makes religion so repugnant.

> If you do,
>and you accept God and try your best to live as he indicates, your reward
>will be eternal life. If not, you suffer the consequences by being denied
>entrance to Heaven and becoming a resident of Hell. I'm not saying this, it
>has been written. You can criticize me all you want or make excuses, but I
>won't be judging you; that's up to someone much more qualified than I.
>
>Actually, I'm not all that perturbed by the obvious lack of believers I find
>here. Christ showed everything he had and people still didn't believe, so
>this attitude is to be expected. Yet God, unlike myself if I were in his
>place, continues to show great patience and an interest in the beings he
>created. Eventually though, that patience will end and we will all witness
>the final results.
>
>>
>> -Greg, with appologies to all for the OT noise.
>>
>



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