Re: "The Calendar" by David Ewing Duncan: Numerous Errors?

From: Oriel36 (geraldkelleher_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 07/30/04 

Date: 30 Jul 2004 08:43:23 -0700

Jonathan Silverlight <jsilverlight@spam.merseia.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message news:<1pdtJQDJ$fCBFw6v@merseia.fsnet.co.uk>...
> In message <273f8e06.0407290830.257780fb@posting.google.com>, Oriel36
> <geraldkelleher@hotmail.com> writes
>
> The same old BS.
>

To be fair to you,the mistake is a really old one and precedes the
gravitational agenda (which makes use of the mistake) by a decade.The
first professional astronomer was Flamsteed who set out to prove that
the Earth rotates constantly on its axis through the motion of the
fixed stars thereby making use of this observation for determining
planetary longitude.

Flamsteed was incorrect.

> >
> >You will have to rely on your own commonsense in the absense of any
> >worthwhile response and you need not go too far before you recognise
> >why contemporary explanations are misleading and ineffective.
> >
> >To determine the annual orbital cycle as 365 day 5 hours 49 min you
> >are required to determine the equable 24 hour day First whereby the
> >equable hour,minute and second are determined as subdivisions of the
> >24 hour day.
>
> But the day is defined as the time between meridian passages of the sun,
> and it's divided up into hours, minutes, and seconds. In Civil Time the
> day is assumed to be of constant length. What's so difficult about that
> idea?
>
> >
> >If you agree that it is not possible to calculate the annual cycle
> >without first determining the equable 24 hour day you will be half way
> >to developing a far better appreceation of the calendar system as an
> >offshoot of the principles which determine the equable day.
> >
> >Using the Sun as a reference for the motions of the Earth,the combined
> >constant axial and variable orbital motion generates a change from
> >one rotation for a given longitude meridian to the next complete
> >rotation.The brilliance of our ancestors was to equalise the variation
> >by adding and subtracting appropriate minutes and seconds to
> >longitudinal noon to smooth out the variations and facilitate the
> >seamless transition from one 24 hour day to the next 24 hour
> >day,Monday into Tuesday,ect.
> >
> >This correction is known as the Equation of Time.
> >
> >In 1677,Flamsteed altered the 24 hour/360 degree equivalency and
> >linked the rotation of the Earth directly to stellar circumpolar
> >motion giving the value for rotation through 360 degrees as the
> >sidereal 23 hours 56 min 04 sec.He screwed up the ancient exquisite
> >reasoning that benefited humanity with the 24 hour day and
> >subsequently the calendar year based on that equable day.
>
> Why not post the Flamsteed statement, or post a link to it?

I did many times -

... our clocks kept so good a correspondence with the Heavens that I
doubt it not but they would prove the revolutions of the Earth to be
isochronical"

http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/HistTopics/Longitude2.html

A direct consequence of that statement can be found in any website
refering to the sidereal value -

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/JennyChen.shtml

I'd be
> interested to hear from someone who actually knows what they are talking
> about, but AFAICS Flamsteed was responsible for the idea of the equation
> of time.

You won't find any,there is just myself.

You can however appeal to those who are familiar with the equable 24
hour clock day,the Equation of Time correction from the noon
determination and how one 24 hour day elapses seamlessly into the next
24 hour day by the 'Equation of Time' method but then you will
encounter those who are aware that the precise value for axial
rotation through 360 degrees,is and always will be 24 hours.

> BTW, either you have a virus or you are deliberately sending me
> unsolicited emails.

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