Re: The big bang theory [ The Red Shift ]
- From: Ralph Hertle <ralph.hertle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 06:01:38 GMT
Shawn:
Shawn wrote:
Ralph Hertle wrote:
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Was there a Big Bang? No. Is the universe made of and is caused by everything that exists, and exists continually? Yes.
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Plus, if the universe is now steady state (more or less), How did it get that way? So great, now it's self perpetuating, it still had to arise somehow, somewhen. 'Splain.
Shawn
The "must have" advocates reply upon the absurd argument that nothing can be the cause for something, or that nothing was the cause for everything.
That is not true. There is no scientific evidence at all anywhere that nothing or a void is a cause for the existence of something. The contradiction is that something cannot both be something and not be something in the same respect. A cause cannot exist simultaneously with the nothing that is purported to to exist. If a cause exists, then nothing cannot exist. In that contradictory view nothing is something and facts are not facts.
The only causes for the physical consequences of changed existents are the existence, the properties of the existents themselves, the potentials for change, or the prior existents. Existence is the cause for all subsequent existence. The universe, being everything and the properties of everything, is the cause for its continued existence. The universe is existing. There is no contradiction in that; the universe exists continually and verifiably. In that view facts are facts.
If you claim the non-existence of the universe - or the simultaneous existence of physical causes and nothing - prove it.
The identification of the continuing existing universe has all evidence to support it.
Ralph Hertle .
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