Re: The big bang theory [ The Red Shift ]

Brian:


Brian Tung wrote:
Ralph Hertle wrote:

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There is another theory that better explains the RS, and, that uses almost
the same set of original empirical facts and identifications of properties
and consequences as the Doppler-Euclid-Hubble explanation.


It has nothing at all to do with Euclid,



That's a direct lie. In science lies are not valid forms of refutation or proof. Proof is reserved for identification of the facts and logic.

The cosmological Red Shift concludes that everything, on balance, is moving away from everything else. By projecting lines from all said moving entities to an origin point, it was necessary to use the Euclidean proved concepts of the extension of a straight line, and that the ends of a line are points, for example.

Try to explain the BB origin point without the use of straight lines. It cannot be done. Unless the lines to the origin point are not straight, and in that case the projection of the universe would appear to be similar to a plate of linguine - all curvy.




since every indication shows 
that space is non-Euclidean, and yet the BB theory survives.





The term "non-Euclidean" is an anti-Euclidean terms that carries with it a specific anti-reason implication. "Non-Euclidean" is a term that denies the use of identifications, facts, and logic. Note the the same authors have been equally vehement against the metaphysics (existents, facts, properties, functionings, consequences, and cause and effect relationships of existents), and the epistemology (inductive and deductive logic, proof, validation of concepts, genus and differentia definitions, and the hierarchy of knowledge) of Aristotle.

Your Platonism is showing.

The BB theory is untenable now that physics has proved that the cosmological Red Shift is caused by the energy reduction of photons in inelastic collisions with hydrogen molecules in cosmological space. Do the math: the universe need not be expanding to explain and demonstrate the cosmological Red Shift. Hence, the BB theory is history.

The Christian Platonists wanted a non-physically existing "ideal" cause for the universe, and Plato's ideas were perfect for them. They also discarded Aristotle's, objective reality, proof, validation of concepts, and accurate scientific measurement.

Aristotle first explained that the causes for the continued existence of the plurality of existents in the universe are the existence, properties, functionings, and potentials of the existents in the universe. Aristotle said that the cause and effect relationships of the properties of things function and are conserved, and the plurality of the universe continues to exist.

Ralph Hertle
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